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I prayed to all the gods, none have answered back...

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
Hi, I don't believe in the gods but for some reason want a reason to believe. Call it habit maybe.

Can't say I understand that, myself. Still sounds to me like you must have some doubts. To clarify, doubts are fine. Just suggesting you don't try too hard to fit into the atheist or theist camp. Just be wherever you are based on mood for a while. Float around. Pray if you want to, maybe seek out some other ways of attaining some peace.

From my point of view, obviously, there are no shortcuts in terms of cure (including a god-given miracle) so it kind of feels like you're torturing yourself with this stuff a little, to be honest.
 

SabahTheLoner

Master of the Art of Couch Potato Cuddles
Wow, this is a really beautiful story, thank you for sharing. I will definitely do what you suggested. If I may ask, which healing Goddess did you pray to?

Sekhmet, the Egyptian lion goddess of healing and war. I think the reason I chose her is because she seems to have personality traits that complement mine. But there is at least one medicine god(dess) per pantheon so I highly recommend to find one you like a lot.
 

Araceli Cianna

Active Member
Sekhmet, the Egyptian lion goddess of healing and war. I think the reason I chose her is because she seems to have personality traits that complement mine. But there is at least one medicine god(dess) per pantheon so I highly recommend to find one you like a lot.

Wow, I never knew there were healing and war deities. I was attracted to Durga/Kali because of that same principle. But obviously they are not healing deities. Do you know of any other deities (any pantheon) that are both war and healing?
 

Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Okay. So I am chronically ill. I was raised in a Christian family. My mum kept telling me Jesus would heal me. But after time I realised my belief in him and prayers were doing nothing. Even when I tried sincerely to hold onto the faith. So I became atheist. But every now and again I still get the urge to pray. So I pray to other deities from other religions since Jesus didn't respond. Well, mostly Hindu deities since I like Hinduism (Durga/Shiva). But still nothing.

Maybe I should try praying to as many different gods as possible from as many different pantheons and see if any of them decide to respond and help me? Maybe I should at least try it. I don't think gods are really out there, but maybe if they are one will actually show themselves to me. Why should I believe in a being that supposedly has the power to manifest itself but doesn't? Are they not real? Do they just not care? Maybe they are not really powerful afterall?

You come asking gods to help you take care of things in your life, knowing full well that you are largely able to take care of them yourself? Most people seem to have the perception of the divine that it is like Santa -- You start asking for things and you get, as long as your are good, else you get coal. Honestly, I don't feel the divine is separate from the rest of the universe and you are given "domain" over your local problems. Rarely, if ever, do domestic problems of these sorts require intervention do they? Or, is it that you need some razzle dazzle to be convinced?

IMHO, becoming a spiritual beggar only leads to disappointment - I mean, will you show yourself to someone who wants $5 every time they see you? This is basically your mindset here (not trying to be critical, but rather set you up for success...)... These attitudes/emotions aren't conductive to having a direct spiritual experience - you should cultivate an air of openness and acceptance - that's to say, accept whatever you will receive from the relationship not just what you want. Right now, it seems they could have literally shown themselves to you but since it didn't fit the criteria you demand you declared it was all rubbish. This will not work.
 

SabahTheLoner

Master of the Art of Couch Potato Cuddles
Wow, I never knew there were healing and war deities. I was attracted to Durga/Kali because of that same principle. But obviously they are not healing deities. Do you know of any other deities (any pantheon) that are both war and healing?

The only one off the top of my head is Athena, from the Greek pantheon. I do agree, it is an unusual mix to have war and healing attributes in one but if you think about it, that actually makes sense.
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
I prayed to all the gods, none have answered back...
I think that the more you think of praying to other gods the more you are making the One True God a little angry. He does not want to share anyone with other gods. If you want satisfaction from another god you probably won't get anything from our Christian God. The Apostle Paul could not get his ailment cured when he ask God to remove the thorn in his side. And he was a powerful Apostle! You need to have rock solid faith and stick with it and not waiver. God's urgency is far different from ours. Especially if we are wavering between 3 or 4 different gods. Go to the God of the Bible and repent of you wavering and stick with the Only True God that can fix your ills.
ronandcarol

I disagree.

Well, then again, I do not subscribe to the archaic description of God as described in the Old Testament to where God is seen as a child-like deity who has emotion. Anger is ascribed to human emotion something I believe God is beyond. What this person needs is a re-establishment of faith.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
I prayed to all the gods, none have answered back...
I think that the more you think of praying to other gods the more you are making the One True God a little angry. He does not want to share anyone with other gods. If you want satisfaction from another god you probably won't get anything from our Christian God. The Apostle Paul could not get his ailment cured when he ask God to remove the thorn in his side. And he was a powerful Apostle! You need to have rock solid faith and stick with it and not waiver. God's urgency is far different from ours. Especially if we are wavering between 3 or 4 different gods. Go to the God of the Bible and repent of you wavering and stick with the Only True God that can fix your ills.
ronandcarol

If he was certain that, out of all of the gods, yours was "the one true god" (a claim that the followers of other gods also make) he wouldn't pray to the others to begin with, but if he is trying to figure out which ones are genuine, then it make sense to try and contact all of them to see who actually responds. If you god wants worship, he might want to consider putting some effort in, starting by not being indistinguishable from false, "dead" gods. It doesn't matter which god is real and which god is not if worshiping/praying to either produces the exact same results (that is, nothing).
 

soulsurvivor

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Okay. So I am chronically ill. I was raised in a Christian family. My mum kept telling me Jesus would heal me. But after time I realised my belief in him and prayers were doing nothing. Even when I tried sincerely to hold onto the faith. So I became atheist. But every now and again I still get the urge to pray. So I pray to other deities from other religions since Jesus didn't respond. Well, mostly Hindu deities since I like Hinduism (Durga/Shiva). But still nothing.

Maybe I should try praying to as many different gods as possible from as many different pantheons and see if any of them decide to respond and help me? Maybe I should at least try it. I don't think gods are really out there, but maybe if they are one will actually show themselves to me. Why should I believe in a being that supposedly has the power to manifest itself but doesn't? Are they not real? Do they just not care? Maybe they are not really powerful afterall?
I am sorry to hear about your illness. Being healed really depends on the cause of the illness. If it is because of your bad karma (maybe from a previous life), I doubt if any God will help you. Karma has to be paid for one way or another, postponing it does not really help, so a God will not want to interfere with the working out of your karma.

Assuming regular doctors are unable to help you, I would suggest getting in touch with some 'new age' energy healer. I could suggest one (privately) if you are interested. They may not be able to help you either, but they may be able to tell you the root cause of your illness (that knowledge can sometimes provide some comfort)
 

FutureFaith

New Member
Okay. So I am chronically ill. I was raised in a Christian family. My mum kept telling me Jesus would heal me. But after time I realised my belief in him and prayers were doing nothing. Even when I tried sincerely to hold onto the faith. So I became atheist. But every now and again I still get the urge to pray. So I pray to other deities from other religions since Jesus didn't respond. Well, mostly Hindu deities since I like Hinduism (Durga/Shiva). But still nothing.

Maybe I should try praying to as many different gods as possible from as many different pantheons and see if any of them decide to respond and help me? Maybe I should at least try it. I don't think gods are really out there, but maybe if they are one will actually show themselves to me. Why should I believe in a being that supposedly has the power to manifest itself but doesn't? Are they not real? Do they just not care? Maybe they are not really powerful afterall?

You're an atheist and you are complaining that God/Gods/god/gods aren't listening to you? You don't even believe in them!

"Hi, God, or Gods, or god, or gods, I don't believe you exist, because you never heard my prayers before, but if you are hearing this, can you please heal me? Thanks."

Do you realize how preposterous that is?

I am truly sorry about your condition, but you really ought to seek the Gods of Medicine, doctors, about this issue.
 

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Okay. So I am chronically ill. I was raised in a Christian family. My mum kept telling me Jesus would heal me. But after time I realised my belief in him and prayers were doing nothing. Even when I tried sincerely to hold onto the faith. So I became atheist. But every now and again I still get the urge to pray. So I pray to other deities from other religions since Jesus didn't respond. Well, mostly Hindu deities since I like Hinduism (Durga/Shiva). But still nothing.

Maybe I should try praying to as many different gods as possible from as many different pantheons and see if any of them decide to respond and help me? Maybe I should at least try it. I don't think gods are really out there, but maybe if they are one will actually show themselves to me. Why should I believe in a being that supposedly has the power to manifest itself but doesn't? Are they not real? Do they just not care? Maybe they are not really powerful afterall?

I am sorry to hear of your poor health and hope new advances in medicine help you towards a cure. If you have pain, meditation can help you.
https://nccih.nih.gov/research/blog/mindfulness-meditation-pain

The physical world is inevitably the world of suffering and decay as it is inevitably the world of growth, creativity and flux. A world that changes from one moment to the next has unrealized raw potentials that drive it and a sequence of creations and destructions through which transformations happen. Such a world is necessarily half formed, "broken" as Christians call it, though it's a feature not a bug, as the world eternally and incessantly actualizes new possibilities by breaking old one. Instead of one eternally unchanging perfect rose, one has trillions and trillions of temporally finite roses with various imperfections, each unique by their eccentricities. That is this world.

However the temporal, raw nature of the world creates the conditions both for suffering and for growth. They will happen as long as one is in this world. Unfortunately for us, our sense of suffering is usually greater than its needs to be due to
a) Our sense of being trapped in the present now. While awareness of the present is necessary for us to act, our experienced "now" need not be trapped in the moment, but can extend in time (even to past lives) so that all moments are equally alive and available. For in time, all moments exist equally, and the present joy or suffering is but one moment in it. And this can become apparent when all such moments can be seen as vividly as the present. This true nature of extended self can be uncovered both in Hinduism and Buddhism.

b) The second limitation is the trap of the subjective self itself. We are usually trapped in our own first person experience and our empathic connections only hint at the actual rich nature of interconnections that all selves in all beings share. Upanishads declare that there is only one Self without a second. As the ego is dissolved through spiritual praxis, one begins to sense the first person experience of all beings around oneself, and to see transparently into one's own mind as how insecurities and anxieties increase our isolation and suffering. These cannot cure physical suffering, doctors are needed for that. But our internal powers are considerable, and while I strongly believe in modern medicine, the Western penchant of treating the body and mind as biochemical factories only is beginning to hinder its progress especially against chronic and mental illnesses as opposed to bacteria borne illnesses.


This is as much as I have understood from my own limited practice in Hinduism. Do Gods actually heal the sick directly like magic? I have not seen it, nor have the experience to judge such things against usual workings of the world. But beliefs based on such events is shallow, easily reversed by later disappointments. Though I do hope that you are healed. Best.
 
Why should I believe in a being that supposedly has the power to manifest itself but doesn't? Are they not real? Do they just not care? Maybe they are not really powerful afterall?

I was born into a home where domestic violence was frequent; my parents did not give me the love and nurturing that I needed. Thus I have had problems all of my life. Some time ago I found out from a psychologist that I tested positive for traits of various personality disorders. Basically what I was told is that I am a psychopath/sociopath; that I do not really feel for others; that I lack empathy; that I am narcissistic. Thinking back on my childhood and young adulthood, I can never remember crying much, for years at a time — emotionless; and I was a sadistic bully.

Now let me tell you the manifestation, the reality, the care, and the power that gave me emotions, empathy, and compassion.

There was a man who claimed to be the sole deity and creator of the universe. He preached that we should forgive one another, even unto death. And he walked the walk, and sacrificed himself, and was executed. The story of his life states that after he died he rose again to life. Before he died, he said that he would bring everyone who walked his walk back to life, and they would live forever with him. This was the Nazarene. This is what I believe. And I was healed by my belief.

In essence I was dead; but I was given life. Do you even know what it is like to be dead? People take empathy and compassion for granted.

I believe what was said about that man from Nazareth. Even if there is no God, or gods, what religion deserves greater respect than the one preached by the Nazarene? Who deserves worship more than the Nazarene? Who would make a better judge than the Nazarene?

What greater power is there than the power wielded by the Nazarene? The power of love and change.

Perhaps I am being a bit eccentric, but there, I said what I said.

I don't think gods are really out there, but maybe if they are one will actually show themselves to me.

If you are interested I can show you one. I cannot promise that he will heal you though, which makes me sad.
 

Araceli Cianna

Active Member
If you are interested I can show you one. I cannot promise that he will heal you though, which makes me sad.

Your story was very moving and you have clearly been changed profoundly. Thank you for sharing.

I have had a change of thought though after reading all these replies and realised its not the gods job to heal me. Right after this I decided to pray to the Roman Goddess Diana and for the first time I had a response and she visited me very strongly. I made her an offering thanking her and again she came to me.

Whether I believe it is imagination or real I don't know. But I found something I had been searching for. Thanks for all of your responses.
 

RoaringSilence

Active Member
Okay. So I am chronically ill. I was raised in a Christian family. My mum kept telling me Jesus would heal me. But after time I realised my belief in him and prayers were doing nothing. Even when I tried sincerely to hold onto the faith. So I became atheist. But every now and again I still get the urge to pray. So I pray to other deities from other religions since Jesus didn't respond. Well, mostly Hindu deities since I like Hinduism (Durga/Shiva). But still nothing.

Maybe I should try praying to as many different gods as possible from as many different pantheons and see if any of them decide to respond and help me? Maybe I should at least try it. I don't think gods are really out there, but maybe if they are one will actually show themselves to me. Why should I believe in a being that supposedly has the power to manifest itself but doesn't? Are they not real? Do they just not care? Maybe they are not really powerful afterall?

Hi Sheon,

Please try this and let me know if this helps , avoid understanding the logic or depth for now cause if it works you wouldn't need an explanation :D

For 7-10 days, before you sleep ..lay down on the bed ..observe yourself top to bottom or bottom to top doesn't matter :D .. then focus on breathing ..check out how amazing your lungs are , just fill yourself with gratitude towards air /oxygen for free supply without any $ cost. and while you do all of this find out ..who within yourself was watching you do this...who within you was the observer .. once you connect to the one within who observed your actions ..say hello to her and name her Sheon V-2.0 or any other name you like.. next day when you repeat this and you find sheon v-2.0 say hello to her again... and then try to spot the ONE that watched you say hello to sheon v-2.0 ..this third observer name her sheon v-3.0 and say hello with a big smile... next day repeat the same thing over say hello to sheon v1 v2 v3.. and tell them all that this body needs attention from the ultimate observer , and ask sheon 1-2-3 to pass your message to sheon ultimate observer , and you surrender your body's well being to sheon ultimate . If you get goosebumps = your message has been sent and read.the more you get to stay with sheon 1/2/3 the more energy /strength you will receive to heal yourself , depends on how much gratitude you develop over time.
 
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RoaringSilence

Active Member
This is as much as I have understood from my own limited practice in Hinduism. Do Gods actually heal the sick directly like magic? I have not seen it, nor have the experience to judge such things against usual workings of the world. But beliefs based on such events is shallow, easily reversed by later disappointments. Though I do hope that you are healed. Best.

Brahma= Operating system (manifested realm) , deities =desktop icons (for various functions of maya management). Par-Brahma (Unmanifested Primal ).
Healing possible -when u click on icon you draw the energy vested to it , but it adds to karmic load, postpones liberation.
 

Mrpasserby

Do not just Believe 'Become', I am Sufficient.
Hi Sheon,
In my life experience: I have had to have many healings, and I found a person who has a connection to a being who, healed me from a really bad wound. I hope that you will do well. :)
Astral Meetings with the Being Belsebuub
In my experience: this is a soft healing centered meditation that I personally use.
 
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Sha'irullah

رسول الآلهة
Did you try sacrificing a goat and a virgin child? If you need help read Genesis 22 and Judges 11. Riveting stuff!

Kidding aside though, do not think gods exist to help man, what makes you think they will?
 

Mrpasserby

Do not just Believe 'Become', I am Sufficient.
'Kidding aside though, do not think gods exist to help man, what makes you think they will?'
Sha'irullah,
most of my spirit friends just have functional spirits, and don't pretend to be gods. As is stated in my profile, that I go on spirit quests, I have done many different jobs for all types of beings that dwell within the world of spirits. During which time I have been *wounded on a number of occasions and that translates down to physical damage, I have subsequently been healed by calling in favors and the like .
*during the woundings mentioned in the previous post, my physical body I lost all of my blood to the point that I had 0 blood pressure, at the time it took 5 pints of whole blood and a lot of plasma to keep me going.
 
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