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I want to believe in God again.

Servant_of_the_One1

Servant_of_the_One1

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U make logical choice because christianity today is open to homosexuality. Perhaps in the future we might really see transexual priest. Today there are homosexual and female priests. Christianity is progressive when it comes to opening doors for homosexuals and transexuals.
 
Jumi

Jumi

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YmirGF

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Saint Frankenstein said:
Thanks. That's really good advice.
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I know that I'm late to the party, Frankie, but why not just be the best Catholic you can be? Damn the torpedoes. There will always those who reject you and there will always be those who are there to embrace you. Don't expect a lot from your fellow mortals, who have their own issues to deal with, and you may not be disappointed as easily. Even hardened hearts tend to, when given enough time, recognize sincerity.
 
Tmac

Tmac

Active Member
What a funny statement, I want to believe in God again. First off, apparently you never stopped believing in "it" so what you are probably saying is I have too many questions to believe in what I use to believe. But I like your original statement, I'm curious as to why you would want to believe in something that apparently has let you down enough that you tried to turn away from it?
 
Debater Slayer

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
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Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Saint Frankenstein said:
I keep flip-flopping between religions and I'm tired of it. I should just learn my lesson - polytheism doesn't really click with me and it's a lonely experience for me. It doesn't bring me peace of mind and I don't really feel the gods, not in the same way I've experienced the Christian God in the past. That's just my experience.

But I am very angry and bitter at Christians, specifically Catholics, for how they have treated me and people like me. I do not feel like I was really accepted as a Catholic. I cannot stand the judgmentalism and hypocrisy. But if I commit to Christianity again, it would have to be Catholicism because I simply can't see myself being a Protestant. Orthodoxy is an option, but that's too culturally foreign to me. I miss going to Mass, I miss the feeling of peace, warmth and love I felt praying and meditating, I miss the sense of wonder. I also would not become some super-conservative type. That's just not me. I know how to reconcile being queer, trans and sex-positive with Christianity, within myself.

I don't know. A lot of the time I feel like my relationship with God and the Church is so broken that it can't be fixed and I'm just fooling myself.

I don't know where I'm going with this post, I'm just tired.
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I can't remember where I posted a reply to you; so, I won't talk long if I did.

Last week two Catholics from my parish came to visit me. They still remembered and gave me a rosary and some pamphlets. They didn't like I wasn't going to Mass; but, they were always welcomed. Today, an hour ago actually, two other friends came to visit. They talk with me at the bookstore when I went and read about the Papal Encyclicals etc. We prayed together.

The Catholic Church is beautiful; and, if I were you (if I, were you), I wouldn't leave the Church. My friend is actually studying to be a deacon and maybe a priest. I told him to keep me in mind. ;) But wherever god (however defined) takes him and people called to whatever devotion, that's beautiful.

I think maybe your friction is really that and, my all around point is to really have a talk with a good priest about it. Set up an appointment and tell him about what you believe and what you're having trouble with. If the Church didn't believe in original sin and didn't see Christ-a human being-as a sacrifice, then I'd probably would have stayed; however, they do. I can't change that.

However, there are a myriad of Catholics who believe in different things, surprisingly to my knowledge, and some I wouldn't even consider Catholic if I were legalistic about it. I don't believe god is legalistic. I believe he is life (not personified) and if I were to personify him, I'd think he want you to live your life for him-gratitude and for yourself in devotion.

I'm sure you can do that. That's what the sacraments are about, gratitude, sacrifice, devotion, and repentance. If you cover those things, I think you're good. Just talk with a good priest and take the Eucharist. Maybe that will clear some of your thoughts.

Just a thought hopefully not a sermon.

Cheerios!
 
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Tabu

Active Member
Try spirituality .
I had always believed in God , but my relationship with God turned sore due some bad incidents in my life , which I neither was able to swallow as fate , nor pass as tests.
Brahmakumaris and their spirituality gave me a fresh outlook into life , and revived and beautified my bond with God . Now I constantly remember God with great love , most of my questions are answered , and I am much at peace and filled with happiness now.
" Religion is for those who fear falling into Hell , Spirituality is for those who are already there."
 
meghanwaterlillies

meghanwaterlillies

Well-Known Member
Saint Frankenstein said:
I think when it comes my experience with my parish, it's mostly because it's a cathedral and tends towards conservatism. Beautiful cathedral and beautiful liturgy, but the regulars tend to be elderly people. When I joined the Church, the rector of the cathedral was a very kind, humorous, friendly and energetic type. He's since retired and now the new rector comes off as stuffy and doesn't strike me as very approachable. However, there are lists of parishes in my city that are said to be more accepting of LGBT people, so maybe it's really a matter of switching parishes. It's just that my life has been so chaotic and I've been hit with so many hardships, one after another, that my spiritual life has pretty much reflected that chaos and religious practice has been placed on the backburner as I simply try to survive and not give into my depression and despair. But I do miss being religious and I want to be part of a community. I actually was an altar server for a time, if you can imagine that, with my piercings and all. Lol.

So maybe I should look for another parish. I haven't really ventured outside of the cathedral.
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why didn't you ever get married? Learning to be married to truly love and have the other back is one women is what all religion has missed, not accusing one as evil or whores. They push people out or in by stating sexual sin while also being hypocrites then they run to islam treats women like **** yet doesn't love one. Not judging you for anything that's just the truth. For whatever reason religion opposes it or unless your going to be a conniving religious prank that pays for fundamentalist divisions propaganda they wont pay you drop down to laws. Its pretty weird to me and ****ed up.
 
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Desert Snake

Veteran Member
meghanwaterlillies said:
why didn't you ever get married? Learning to be married to truly love and have the other back is one women is what all religion has missed, not accusing one as evil or whores. They push people out or in by stating sexual sin while also being hypocrites then they run to islam treats women like **** yet doesn't love one. Not judging you for anything that's just the truth. For whatever reason religion opposes it or unless your going to be a conniving religious prank that pays for fundamentalist divisions propaganda they wont pay you drop down to laws. Its pretty weird to me and ****ed up.
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That's some fascinating narrative..
 
meghanwaterlillies

meghanwaterlillies

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syncretic said:
That's some fascinating narrative..
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Its actually very true, you'd have no problem between you and God Jesus even for mishaps but a soon as you show interest in that or God they try to pull you away into this sick play ground of philosophy "angels" art obsessions with Israel. An idea of parenting that has ruined lives. The only way they could come up with something is to control it people and populations was to make money off of running sexuality and marriage also gangsters and prostitution then provide other means holiness that makes you feel you have to shed off or go with every other philosophy. They think they have a grasp by saying that's what God is about actually know that just betrayed the truth. I've met some people who use their marriage too in some contexts as just that which though makes them no better just use another angle to spin. They try to use marriage as political state and harsh church thing. Its quit simple like what I posted up top. They make to much money off of this **** and for power and its very sad then they raise up people to condemn it. I rather not own the whole world and lose my soul I'll just keep it right here. Besides that I would be barely able to be in of control myself.
 
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Whiterain

Whiterain

Get me off of this planet
Do you want to believe in God or a dogma? So many people are trying to find a God that does something for them, not to do something for the God. There are hurdles most religious people may go through. Like monotheists brainwashed and just discovering myth and polytheism, and understanding that there are hundreds of "Gods" and that religion is erroneous.

Good luck finding your personal Jesus Christ.

Personally I don't know what to do, or who "God" is right now, or like, King of the Gods or Chieftain. "Monotheism" didn't mean there weren't more Gods, just to worship 1 God only, then some stuff about the 1 true god. That was the biggest tragedy in religion let alone religion being the biggest tragedy in human history.


I don't necessarily believe in God or a dogma, but revere the Gods.


Perhaps we will learn the truth one day.
 
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