I was wrong - and that makes me angry.

[Estro Felino]

Of course. When Trump crashes the economy, the banks suffer. If you want the banks to suffer, you should be for Trump and his economic plans.
Wait ...

I am thinking of our situation...the EU is secretly led by a banking dictatorship...whose rules are demonic.

The money to fund idiotic wars in Eastern Europe can be spent... but austerity dictates that there must be cuts, cuts, cuts on healthcare.


Do you side with the usurers who dictate such rules in Europe?

 

[InChrist]

Hi, if you didn't vote for Kamala, can you please answer the questions I asked in post #21?
It would greatly help me understand.

Okay. I don’t like the person Donald Trump is or the obnoxious, self-centered, wrong things he has said and done. I don’t like a lot of things about Kamala Harris or things she has said or done, either. Given the choice of two I don’t especially like, I only voted according to who I thought would be better overall in their leadership and policies for the country.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

I did not even wait up for the count.
I was pretty certain that TRUMP would win.
Though It was certainly not the result that I wanted.
But there is almost no limit to people's ignorance and stupidity.
And America does everything bigger and to excess compared to every one else.
And they sure did not disappoint.

 

[muhammad_isa]

..the biggest problem was that people didn't vote.
I also don't know if that is because of malice, stupidity or simply laziness.

Neither .. I suggest that they were not happy with the ongoing wars, so
abstained.

 

[Heyo]

Neither .. I suggest that they were not happy with the ongoing wars, so
abstained.

You mean they don't like wars they aren't actively participating in?
The last time they have been lied into a series of bloody, expensive, immoral wars, they punished the perpetrator with a second term. Don't tell me that the US doesn't like war.

 

[LuisDantas]

You had too much faith.
USA government morality has
always been fickle, subject to
whim, & self serving to the tribe.

Not ostensively to anywhere this level, though.

Not even after 2003.

 

[Estro Felino]

You mean they don't like wars they aren't actively participating in?
The last time they have been lied into a series of bloody, expensive, immoral wars, they punished the perpetrator with a second term. Don't tell me that the US doesn't like war.

Yes...back then there were no social media.

But it's true...
The dems think their wars are all holy and just (Amen), whereas the wars of the GOP are all bad bad bad.

 

[stvdv]

May I test your knowledge?

Do you know that
- Trump had an affair with a porn actress while his wife was pregnant
- he paid her to keep quiet during his campaign in 2016
- he tried to hide the payment, illegally
- he is a habitual liar, far beyond that what is usual in politicians
- he stole secret documents and the FBI had to get them back
- he tried to interfere, most probably illegally, in the 2020 election
- his campaign promises, if enacted, will lead to increased deficit and higher prices, according to most leading economists
- he made misogynistic, xenophobic and racist remarks?

I assume you know all that, even you wouldn't put it in the same words - and you are OK with such a man becoming PotUS.

I don't vote for liars (I don't trust liars)

BUT

What is much more horrible is below fact:

Your list clearly proves:
America has dangerous low standards
For Americans to become presidents

Don't you think that's the real problem here?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Of course. When Trump crashes the economy, the banks suffer. If you want the banks to suffer, you should be for Trump and his economic plans.
Wait ...

Yeah. Im finally getting back above poverty and able to stand on my own again after a nasty bout of unemployment and his insane economic policies are going to wipe that out (so is the mountain of medical debt (bit over $8000) I got unexpectedly buried by).
So money is definitely gonna be tight, maybe as bad or worse than when I first moved out on my own and was heavily dependent upon charity, gas station reward points and cheap stuff at Aldi to feed myself.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Yes...back then there were no social media.

But it's true...
The dems think their wars are all holy and just (Amen), whereas the wars of the GOP are all bad bad bad.

Then why were so many Dems in support of war in Afghanistan?

 

[danieldemol]

@Heyo
In my view you have probably approximately 8 people who are actively against Trump on RF, and about 8 people who are pro Trump.

Even if each of those 16 people represent 10,000 people who stay informed on how politics effects society and the economy in particular that would leave the vast overwhelming majority of US citizens almost completely uninformed about politics.

So I think the voters were thinking prices higher than what I remember = bad, bad= change government. In other words it was oversimplistic thought process funded by ignorance that won Trump the election.

The good news is that this simplistic thinking will almost certainly cause the political pendulum to swing back again, but the woeful news is Trump can and probably will do a lot of damage in that time in my view.

So Democrats really need to ramp up political education when the pendulum swings back if possible to bring back voter engagement towards being politically informed if at all possible.

I also believe they need to make voting compulsory as at least then the majority of people will be forced to think about if there are any candidates they prefer to Homer Simpson, and that kind of broad engagement could wrestle the vote away from the control of enthusiastic political cult members who don't necessarily represent the majority of US citizens.

 

[danieldemol]

Neither .. I suggest that they were not happy with the ongoing wars, so
abstained.

If they were worried about war in Gaza and Iran they sure shot themselves in the foot by not voting against Trump in my view.
Harris at least acknowledged the war in Gaza needs to end and the need for a ceasfire in my view.

 

[Revoltingest]

Not ostensively to anywhere this level, though.

Not even after 2003.

It's worse than usual.
But Trump is aged & mortal (I hope),
with little time left on Earth.

 

[Estro Felino]

It's worse than usual.
But Trump is aged & mortal (I hope),
with little time left on Earth.

We millennials ...like Vance want the peace with Russia. Vance calls Russia an American adversary but won't label Moscow as an enemy

And ...

 

[Revoltingest]

We millennials ...like Vance want the peace with Russia. Vance calls Russia an American adversary but won't label Moscow as an enemy

And ...

Vance currently wants whatever Trump wants.
Once Trump is gone, perhaps we'll see what Vance
believes when he isn't sucking up to his Master.
Besides, his power comes from glomming onto
Trump. On his own, he just comes off as a
weirdo, rather than a charismatic cult leader.

 

[Revoltingest]

We millennials ...like Vance want the peace with Russia. Vance calls Russia an American adversary but won't label Moscow as an enemy

And ...

Vance wants whatever Trump wants.
Once Trump is gone, perhaps we'll see what Vance
believes when he isn't sucking up to his Master.
Besides, his power comes from glomming onto
Trump. On his own, he just comes off as a
weirdo, rather than a charismatic cult leader.

 

[Revoltingest]

JD Vance reminds me of the old Victrola ads.

Before Vance re-invented himself to curry favor with Trump,
the fervent fido felt this way about "America's Hitler".

But after Vance was transmogrified into a Maga attack dog...

Some day soon, when Vance is no longer his
Master's minion, we might see his true colors.

 

[Estro Felino]

Vance wants whatever Trump wants.
Once Trump is gone, perhaps we'll see what Vance
believes when he isn't sucking up to his Master.
Besides, his power comes from glomming onto
Trump. On his own, he just comes off as a
weirdo, rather than a charismatic cult leader.

Try to see the glass half full and be happy with Trump.

It could be worse. A merciless wicked Marxist like me as president.

 

[muhammad_isa]

You mean they don't like wars they aren't actively participating in?
The last time they have been lied into a series of bloody, expensive, immoral wars, they punished the perpetrator with a second term. Don't tell me that the US doesn't like war.

Party lines sharply divide perspectives on Israel's role, with nearly 60 percent of Democrats attributing "a lot" of responsibility to the Israeli government, a similar figure to those blaming Hamas. Among Republicans, however, only a quarter see Israel as similarly accountable for the conflict's intensification.
poll-democrats-republicans-divided-israel-role-war - Wikipedia

That could be a major reason for abstaining. People did not want to vote for "more of the same".

I often abstain from voting when I don't like either party. I no longer carry responsibility for
the result.

 

[Revoltingest]

Try to see the glass half full and be happy with Trump.

To an engineer, the glass is neither half full nor half empty.
The glass is twice the needed size.