Iceland to ban porn on the web because of children

[Zoe Doidge]

I taught kids aged 13 or so who had obviously watched porn. When they had no idea what was acceptable in a school setting, there were some difficult and unexpected moments. In a public school, most parents expect a minimum decorum level. I agree with the ban, because there are certain parents who won't or can't enforce it.

Think about it this way, you've got parents who know what they're doing, parents who aren't even aware there's a problem and most parents I would think are somewhere in-between. Which is to say they're concerned about it but they not technically minded enough to know what to do about it.

Suddenly the government announces they've blocked all porn by default. Yay! Parents no longer have to worry.

But in reality this is just sweeping it under the carpet. Filtering systems weren't really a challenge when I was in school (so we're talking 10-15 years ago), everyone quickly discovered how to bypass them because we wanted access to email and chat sites etc. The concept is exactly the same with a government level filter. Most parents will think they're safe (and therefore don't have to actually do anything), while the teenagers will just bypass the filter and access what they like.

It just ends up providing lazy parents with a false sense of security, if anything, it's just going to make matters worse.

 

[Vinayaka]

those who don't care shouldn't have children.

Alas, but they do.

 

[freethinker44]

Alas, but they do.

I don't mean that in some rhetorical way, I mean if someone demonstrates that they are not fit to be parents, they should have their children taken away and be sterilized. Having children is a privilege not a right IMO.

 

[Vinayaka]

I don't mean that in some rhetorical way, I mean if someone demonstrates that they are not fit to be parents, they should have their children taken away and be sterilized. Having children is a privilege not a right IMO.

When the kid is 14, pretending to masturbate in class, or pretend humping other students, it's a little too late to sterilise the parent, but you could sterilise the kid.

 

[Kalidas]

I think Mark Twain said it best: censorship is like telling a grown man he can't eat a steak because its bad for a baby."

Now on to the honesty of what I think. Keeping children away from these things is nearly impossible they see by just looking at magazines. I honestly am FAR more worried of violence on TV. Yet Vinyaka has a point and yet doesn't. We shouldn't let kids act in that behavior and guess what that is the parents responsibility. Parents please stop asking the government to babysit your kids because you are to lazy to.

Personally if it were up to me. All people when they hit puberty should be put on mandated birth control and when they turn 18 and want kids must pass a test to prove they would be fit parents. If not more birth control. Now accidents happen let's say an "unsatisfactory" parent got pregnant. You have those 9 months to pass the test using parenting classes as a guide or lose your child upon birth. See I can be a jerk lol

 

[Riverwolf]

When the kid is 14, pretending to masturbate in class, or pretend humping other students, it's a little too late to sterilise the parent, but you could sterilise the kid.

Then again, it's been said that the best way to guarantee someone, especially a young and daring youth, will do something is to forbid it.

Banning porn will just make sex seem forbidden, and thus make the forbidden sexy. IOW, they'll be more likely to pretend masturbate in class, etc.

 

[Riverwolf]

Personally if it were up to me. All people when they hit puberty should be put on mandated birth control and when they turn 18 and want kids must pass a test to prove they would be fit parents. If not more birth control. Now accidents happen let's say an "unsatisfactory" parent got pregnant. You have those 9 months to pass the test using parenting classes as a guide or lose your child upon birth. See I can be a jerk lol

But isn't that you babysitting the kids because the parents are too lazy to?

 

[Vinayaka]

Then again, it's been said that the best way to guarantee someone, especially a young and daring youth, will do something is to forbid it.

Banning porn will just make sex seem forbidden, and thus make the forbidden sexy. IOW, they'll be more likely to pretend masturbate in class, etc.

Not in my experience.

 

[Kalidas]

But isn't that you babysitting the kids because the parents are too lazy to?

Babysit implies they stay with the bad parents and evertone else cares for them. I will be removing them from the bad situation.

 

[Riverwolf]

Not in my experience.

'Tis what I, myself, have observed.

Then again, is there some kind of sex taboo in Canada?

 

[Riverwolf]

Babysit implies they stay with the bad parents and evertone else cares for them. I will be removing them from the bad situation.

Which can be referred to as babysitting, since all my life the implication was that babysitting meant caring for someone who can't care for him/herself.

 

[ZooGirl02]

I was going to reply to your first post there, but then I noticed you posted exactly what I was going to say.

I don't have a problem with my kids viewing inappropriate content on the internet. I parent them, I don't need anyone else to parent them for me.

I agree. And besides, teens are going to experiment. They should be allowed to do look at porn if they want but still parents need to be responsible and ensure that their kids aren't putting themselves in any danger.

 

[Kalidas]

Which can be referred to as babysitting, since all my life the implication was that babysitting meant caring for someone who can't care for him/herself.

Babysitting is caring for a child when the legal caretakers are away.

 

[Riverwolf]

Babysitting is caring for a child when the legal caretakers are away.

It's also a derogatory term for whenever someone feels like another is coddling them, which implies the coddlee is unfit for independence.

 

[Kalidas]

It's also a derogatory term for whenever someone feels like another is coddling them, which implies the coddlee is unfit for independence.

Yes but in this case you are.taking the.word and applying a different meaning, one which is to offend.

 

[Riverwolf]

Yes but in this case you are.taking the.word and applying a different meaning, one which is to offend.

Isn't that how you meant your original usage of the word?

 

[freethinker44]

Yay... more arguing over semantics.

 

[Riverwolf]

Yay... more arguing over semantics.

I get hung up on word usage, so sue me! :bonk:

 

[Sha'irullah]

thats a great move, hopefully our government will do the same.

Well it is a victimless crime. If you are this afraid of sexuality then I vote to ban Christianity and its offensive.
It is immoral and highly detrimental to society.
See where this goes .
The human body is fully sexual by the early teens and considering this countries unnatural approach to sexuality and marriage which is primarily backed by Christian ideology I say ban all interferences with progression...a.k.a Christianity and any religion that espouses its views in politics.

Please describe to me the damaging effects of porn and how pornographers are such victims and criminals appealing to human natural biology.

 

[Pegg]

My question: Just what women and children's rights are violated by porn? If women willingly pose for porn where's the harm? And if children happen upon porn what are these "damaging effects"?

the female body is being violated and i happen to have a female body. I dont want my body to be viewed as a piece of meat and that is exactly how porn presents it.... as a piece of filth to be used as a tool for someone elses pleasure.