IDF publishes unedited footage showing Hamas equipment in al-Shifa hospital

[Harel13]

The IDF's spokesperson unit released an unedited single-shot tour of some areas of the al-Shifa hospital showing where weapons and other equipment belonging to Hamas were hidden.

 

[Orbit]

The IDF's spokesperson unit released an unedited single-shot tour of some areas of the al-Shifa hospital showing where weapons and other equipment belonging to Hamas were hidden.

My favorite comment about this from Twitter: "My Uncle Hank in Nevada has more guns than that in his garage".

But seriously, where is the "command center"? Where is the entrance to the tunnels? I've seen all the footage (not just this) that was released, and am left wondering about the last video they released, where an IDF soldier pointed to a calendar on the wall, written in Arabic script, and declared the days of the week written there to be the names of Hamas operatives. The IDF removed that post from twitter the next day. The fog of war, and all.

I am still left wondering, and would be very happy if the IDF *did* find a Hamas command center, but so far I've seen no evidence that points to that. Time will tell. Good luck to them in their efforts.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

The IDF's spokesperson unit released an unedited single-shot tour of some areas of the al-Shifa hospital showing where weapons and other equipment belonging to Hamas were hidden.

Given the scale of the collateral damage, the evidence strikes me as being painfully underwhelming.

 

[Harel13]

Given the scale of the collateral damage, the evidence strikes me as being painfully underwhelming.

Three points:
1. What did you expect to find there?
2. A significant number of Hamas terrorists have changed strategic position as the IDF closed around the hospital. Some have moved south, for example. They obviously took equipment with them.
3. There are still the tunnels underneath the hospital.

 

[Harel13]

My favorite comment about this from Twitter: "My Uncle Hank in Nevada has more guns than that in his garage".

Hilarious. Nice to live so far away from mortal danger that it becomes a laughing matter.

But seriously, where is the "command center"? Where is the entrance to the tunnels?

It would be suicide to film the tunnels before they've cleared of terrorists. I don't imagine that Hamas would take too kindly to a friendly request from the IDF to pause the fighting for an informative video regarding their operations.

I've seen all the footage (not just this) that was released, and am left wondering about the last video they released, where an IDF soldier pointed to a calendar on the wall, written in Arabic script, and declared the days of the week written there to be the names of Hamas operatives. The IDF removed that post from twitter the next day. The fog of war, and all.

I don't have Twitter, but the video is still very much on YouTube. So much fog, they must have forgotten to take it off of YouTube. And by the way, that soldier is the head of the IDF's spokesperson unit.
You can see it here (from 5:34):

 

[Revoltingest]

Is this footage as reliable as the claim of beheaded children?

 

[Orbit]

Hilarious. Nice to live so far away from mortal danger that it becomes a laughing matter.

It would be suicide to film the tunnels before they've cleared of terrorists. I don't imagine that Hamas would take too kindly to a friendly request from the IDF to pause the fighting for an informative video regarding their operations.

I don't have Twitter, but the video is still very much on YouTube. So much fog, they must have forgotten to take it off of YouTube. And by the way, that soldier is the head of the IDF's spokesperson unit.
You can see it here (from 5:34):

Sometimes you have to laugh to keep from crying.

Did they find the door to the tunnels, because I didn't see where they did.

I look forward to them storming the tunnels and wiping out Hamas, if indeed there is any Hamas "command center" there to wipe out.

Time will tell.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Three points:
1. What did you expect to find there?
2. A significant number of Hamas terrorists have changed strategic position as the IDF closed around the hospital. Some have moved south, for example. They obviously took equipment with them.
3. There are still the tunnels underneath the hospital.

1. Something more impactful than a laptop and military items sufficient to equip a minuscule cell.
2. That seems possible, although it does raise questions about the effectiveness of IDF containment.
3. I don't doubt it.

And, given the scale of the collateral damage, the evidence strikes me as being painfully underwhelming.

 

[Harel13]

Sometimes you have to laugh to keep from crying.

Crying isn't a bad thing.

Did they find the door to the tunnels, because I didn't see where they did.

I expect they did. But even simply approaching the entrance is dangerous. It must be done in a strategic manner.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

The IDF's spokesperson unit released an unedited single-shot tour of some areas of the al-Shifa hospital showing where weapons and other equipment belonging to Hamas were hidden.

That's it? Did they learn from Bush Jr screaming Sadam had weapons if mass destruction?
It still doesn't excuse the wholesale punishment of Palestenians over the actions of one group, amd especially not with such an underwhelming presentation that should have yielded amore dire amd grave situation if we are to believe the IDF.
It would be better just to give all the warmongers (including Hamas and IDF) their own island so they can kill each other to their hearts content while leaving everyone else alone in peace.

 

[Harel13]

Something more impactful than a laptop and military items sufficient to equip a minuscule cell.

That's too vague. What would you have wanted to see there? A giant death ray? A mech factory?

That seems possible, although it does raise questions about the effectiveness of IDF containment.

Yes, it's hard to contain 500 km of underground passages.

 

[Harel13]

Is this footage as reliable as the claim of beheaded children?

Regarding the beheaded children: Here's a wide list of news outlets that reported on the matter, from both sides of the political aisle. These reports include eyewitness accounts of beheaded baby bodies, or accounts of reporters who saw images of these bodies.

Poynter, PolitiFact 'fact check' misleads on beheadings - JNS.org

If these organizations are the credible fact checkers they claim to be, they owe readers an apology.

www.jns.org

If you want, someone leaked the 44 minute compilation of Hamas webcams from the attack. I'm sure you can find it online, maybe you can find footage of beheadings.

Regarding the footage, I don't know if you watched it, but it shows an unedited tour of some parts of the hospital.

 

[Revoltingest]

Regarding the beheaded children: Here's a wide list of news outlets that reported on the matter, from both sides of the political aisle. These reports include eyewitness accounts of beheaded baby bodies, or accounts of reporters who saw images of these bodies.

Poynter, PolitiFact 'fact check' misleads on beheadings - JNS.org

If these organizations are the credible fact checkers they claim to be, they owe readers an apology.

www.jns.org

If you want, someone leaked the 44 minute compilation of Hamas webcams from the attack. I'm sure you can find it online, maybe you can find footage of beheadings.

Regarding the footage, I don't know if you watched it, but it shows an unedited tour of some parts of the hospital.

The Hamas attack isn't in dispute.
But Israel's oppression & war crimes are.
They just seem unable to admit what they do.

 

[Harel13]

The Hamas attack isn't in dispute.
But Israel's oppression & war crimes are.
They just seem unable to admit what they do.

One post ago you casted doubt that beheadings occurred. Do you now accept that or still deny?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

That's too vague. What would you have wanted to see there? A giant death ray? A mech factory?

We'll chat more when you're you're serious about doing so.

 

[sun rise]

The issue is not how many weapons there were but Hamas using the hospital and using the sick as human shields.

 

[Harel13]

We'll chat more when you're you're serious about doing so.

I'm being incredibly serious. But I'm aware that many people on this site were never in the military and may have ridiculously high expectations as a result of being influenced by the modern film industry. Are you one of them?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I'm being incredibly serious. But I'm aware that many people on this site were never in the military and may have ridiculously high expectations as a result of being influenced by the modern film industry. Are you one of them?

You've been here how long now and spit that out to set such an incredibly low bar? You've known Jay for how long and throw that against him?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

The issue is not how many weapons there were but Hamas using the hospital and using the sick as human shields.

Yes, but to the degree the IDF has insisted Hamas is embeded among civilians, for all the attention given to that hospital and the "command center," it's rather an anthill than the promised mountain. Even I had my hopes up they'd finally get some of Hamas rather than blow everything up, but it looked more like they hit a minor storage shed.

 

[Kenny]

The IDF's spokesperson unit released an unedited single-shot tour of some areas of the al-Shifa hospital showing where weapons and other equipment belonging to Hamas were hidden.

If I am not mistaken, they also had to fight inside the hospital - Hamas putting innocent people at risk.

I am also thankful that Israelis brought in pre-natal equipment, medicine and doctors into the hospital