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Idolatry and Christianity

DNB

Christian
idolizing anything is a form of idolatry


Easton's Bible Dictionary
Idolatry
Image-worship or divine honour paid to any created object. Paul describes the origin of idolatry in Romans 1:21-25- men forsook God, and sank into ignorance and moral corruption (1:28).


King James Bible Dictionary - Reference List - Idolatries


an instance of idolatry

james 2:1-6
ARE YOU LISTENING? Ascribing divinity to non-divine beings is idolatry, and NOT merely admiring, emulating, inspired by, jealous or envious of them. Your own dictionary says the same thing
 

agorman

Active Member
Premium Member
Idolatry is forbidden in the Torah, the OT, and the NT.


so why would someone ignore the fact and continue to practice idolatry to a created, begotten, formed thing if their religious teaching forbid it?

By idolatry are you referring to Jesus himself or the statues made of him, Mary, the saints, angels, etc?

Because nowadays unless someone is a poor idiot, nobody really worships the statue itself, but the divine being it represents. I amuse myself with the idea that someone would go to a church, smash a Jesus statue, and everybody would suddenly become an Atheist!

The statue is just a tool to pretend you're talking to a divine being.

If you are referring to worshiping Jesus himself as "idolatry", you're wrong; if Jesus is considered a human projection/appearance of God. If Jesus was just a divine teacher or prophet, then yes, they are unknowingly or unwillingly committing idolatry.
 
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rational experiences

Veteran Member
God where science in human life begins is with earth God mineral alchemies....stone is an idol as it is idle a status..
Statue.

God didn't invent science for machines humans did.

Phi he says is on the ground as melted irradiation first. Healing cooling ends stop on top of crops living. It flattens by pressure change patterns.

UFO small radiation balls seen as cooling is no longer active because power plants causes. Extra radiation is still attacking ground life.

Cooling removes the radiation attack.

Heavens statement owned our protection was removing radiation.

So science knowing they caused all of life's destruction once a long time ago as scientist inventor Phi attack said Phi their calculus destroyed us.

Heavenly god causes stopped the attack. Life in nature saved. Machine body first came from gods earth body by design.

Crops as compared to human life is no human living in the comparisons of bodies.

Scientific answer.

Science never accepts God father's answers.

What we all were taught our scientist brother is lifes destroyer.

Today instead of God earth and gods heavens saving by phi attack as usual he wants it activated past its natural cessation.

As he studied it built a new technology where he wants Phi to directly in a channel be directed just to his machine. One to One ownership he says.

He wants it removed from God earth God heavens control.

Channelled controlled owned.

Meaning Phi ground sealed would be changed and he got what he tried to force sink holes. New sink holes. Taking ancient cooling of seals away from God earth.

As the looping cooling is between earths mineral melt history and ending cooled crop circles.

Ignored.

His psyche theist already told him Phi owns the end of his first machine historic laid destroyed as on the ground. And it stopped ended his machine.

Machine gone removed in earths radiation melt. Ignored also.

He remanifested built up off god statue ground idol a new machine. Rebirthed life's destroyer. So already has removed part of natural Phi cooling.

To own machine from God. Gods body earth sciences idol.

His ancient brothers spiritual aware already knew what he did before and had in fact banned Alchemy as the sun attacked earth owned why dust particles existed.

Sun theisms nuclear.

Alchemy virtually by man science began sun attack again in conversions. As if the sun was not stopped from destroying earths body.

Why sin theists were put in gaol.

Our spiritual astute brother knew what he was talking about. Historic.

Religious insight against science of the occult was real.

Teaching. Humans don't idolise life's sacrifice they idolised the fight for human rights.

Humans don't make false idols science does.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Idolatry is forbidden in the Torah, the OT, and the NT.


so why would someone ignore the fact and continue to practice idolatry to a created, begotten, formed thing if their religious teaching forbid it?
The Person of God the Son is uncreated, infinite and has existed for all of eternity just like the other Persons of the Trinity. He just became incarnate as Jesus Christ, but existed beforehand with the Father in Heaven, to which He has returned after His earthly ministry. So it is not idolatry as you're trying to claim. He is God and deserves due worship as such, in Christianity.
 
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Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
to worship a man they've made into God and engage in Pagan rituals such as Eucharist if it's the Jewish God?
We don't feel Christ has been made into God by humans. We feel He was revealed to be God by what is recorded in the Scriptures, just as God had to reveal Himself to His creation in the first place in order for us to have a relationship with Him.

And the Eucharist is foreshadowed by the manna from Heaven the Israelites were given by God in their wanderings in the desert.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
The Person of God the Son is uncreated, infinite and has existed for all of eternity just like the other Persons of the Trinity. He just became incarnate as Jesus Christ, but existed beforehand with the Father in Heaven, to which He has returned after His earthly ministry. So it is not idolatry as you're trying to claim. He is God and deserves due worship as such, in Christianity.
Gods son as the God of a God was never a human. It was the sacrificed earth gases of God in the space womb voided crossing. It was a Science teaching.

Holy spirit. Holy spiritual bodies.

You misquote the reasoning.

Gods son is a God term was never a man. We were gas spirit burnt sacrificed for applying temple pyramid nuclear science. Fall of man. Our human father invented science.

Man's sin.

A human man is only ever a Human man. Theoried about God states.

Human man was God earth sacrificed for inventing nuclear science of the dusts so God removed half of our owned lived with holy life. Holy water.

Human bio life high percentile water. Holy life water. Holy spirit of life water. Water keeps us safe from heavenly flame.

Water oxygenated by trees with our energy microbiology taken by false cross science add + side cross x. Multiplication into heavens to form new cloud mass.

Notice man's side cross is not GOD it was add it ion.
Due to fallout causes.

Life was hence saved from sacrificed attack radiation gas burning fallout. Half Life of human man who caused it gone. All nature however was attacked.

Modern human king explanation science Stephen Haw King. Warning.

As theism is a human thin King thinker gave self irradiated brain crown of thorns. As the brain burns prickles.

Reasoning.... rich men of science took gods jewels which he adorned self life with falsely as earth owns it first. Has lied and belief coerced.

Man's science chosen by man was about God and his God attacked us with gods power in crystalline jewel EL gods nuclear power made self the poor man sacrificed.

Did it to himself.

I know I got brain irradiated by burning gases. Lived a similar not as bad body attack.

We learn truth of men of science lying by scientific life sacrifice.

Man replaced natural woman life partner at his side with a machine. His add mother womb space cosmic science. Attacked him.

Today possessed says life of man spirit in heavens is a resource by water hydrogen status.

Notice . Dot point radiation in our heavens cooling moves spiral to side - into G back to O into O DD back to back gods spirit in heavens does not fall out.

As it continues as GOD into OOOOO cooling function. God is GOOD the teaching flow cooling protection above us.

The only holy word in heavens GOD never give GOD a name the status. Science calculated words to change earths heavens.

If you are told GOD is the only holy name then no other name is correct.

You get told CH arisen gases out of gods body the highest earth gas. You ignore the relativity of the human teaching.

Christ is holy. God is holy. Jesus the scientific stated life sacrificed attack.

If you claim man's life should be sacrificed then you believe it should be sacrificed. Not holy.

The sacrifice was stopped as Phi fallout was stopped.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
ARE YOU LISTENING? Ascribing divinity to non-divine beings is idolatry, and NOT merely admiring, emulating, inspired by, jealous or envious of them. Your own dictionary says the same thing
NO IT SAYS any created object. worshiping an angel, and archangel, spirits, that are created is a form of idolatry. the point is that it's created. created things can be destroyed. they are not permanent
 

DNB

Christian
NO IT SAYS any created object. worshiping an angel, and archangel, spirits, that are created is a form of idolatry. the point is that it's created. created things can be destroyed. they are not permanent
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, ...or how to read a dictionary.

Easton's Bible Dictionary
Idolatry
Image-worship or divine honour paid to any created object.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, ...or how to read a dictionary.

Easton's Bible Dictionary
Idolatry
Image-worship or divine honour paid to any created object.
that is one definition, in this case its relevant to anthropolatry.

idolatry has multiple definitions. when dealing with any word you have to cover all definitions.

idolatry

1. Worship of idols.
2. Blind or excessive devotion to something.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
idolatry

1. Worship of idols.
2. Blind or excessive devotion to something.
The latter item is problematic, and leads to the question as to what is "excessive"?

So, in theory that definition may be appropriate, but the reality is any line that may be drawn would be arbitrary.
 

DNB

Christian
that is one definition, in this case its relevant to anthropolatry.

idolatry has multiple definitions. when dealing with any word you have to cover all definitions.

idolatry

1. Worship of idols.
2. Blind or excessive devotion to something.
Try to stay focused. The reason idolatry is denounced in the Bible because it demeans God, the Father. He is the only divine being in the universe. Ascribing divinity to anything else is an offense, but loving your wife, your neighbour, or music is not. David was a skilled harpist, how many hours did he put in to become so proficient - was he idolatrous?
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Try to stay focused. The reason idolatry is denounced in the Bible because it demeans God, the Father. He is the only divine being in the universe. Ascribing divinity to anything else is an offense, but loving your wife, your neighbour, or music is not. David was a skilled harpist, how many hours did he put in to become so proficient - was he idolatrous?
loving someone isn't a problem. loving someone and putting someone else's health and well being at risk because of the one you love is a problem. the overall problem with idolatry is thinking in terms of black and white, or good and evil.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
The latter item is problematic, and leads to the question as to what is "excessive"?

So, in theory that definition may be appropriate, but the reality is any line that may be drawn would be arbitrary.
actually its very simple.

excessive admiration, or blind devotion, is doing something that directly, or indirectly, harms another because the focus is so aimed at the tree that it doesn't see the forest.

one's race could be an idolatrous thing.
one's gender, one's age, one's culture.
 

DNB

Christian
loving someone isn't a problem. loving someone and putting someone else's health and well being at risk because of the one you love is a problem. the overall problem with idolatry is thinking in terms of black and white, or good and evil.
If your referring to idolatry as misguided or having an inordinate affection towards a creature, then your definition is viable. But, as the OP indicates, it is the Biblical usage that he was referring to, as in the 2nd Commandment: ascribing deity to any other entity other than God.
 
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