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If a gay or lesbien want to back normal?

Gay or Lesbien want to be partner to other gender .what they suppose to do ?


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Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Hi all

because most the human are not homosexaul (gays or lesbiens) , so they are odd/few ,in the humanity .

let's suppose that a gay or a lesbien want to back normal , i mean man (gay) want the woman , and woman (lesbien) want the man .why he/she suppose to do ?

let's suppose that your wife get in this problem ,and become a lesbien , what you will do ?
let's suppose that your husband become gay ? what you will do ?
 

gsa

Well-Known Member
You are asking what if a gay man or lesbian wants to freely, knowingly and voluntarily have heterosexual sex? I have no opposition to that.

But there should be no religious compulsion or coercion involved, including the threat of exclusion from their communities.
 

beenie

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
The key concept that you're not including or even addressing is the choice to partner with another gay/lesbian and live happily ever after. Many homosexuals are forced into marriages because of culture and/or religious beliefs... isn't it better for everyone if like people partner with like people? :)

Men and women don't "become" gay or a lesbian... that is the key concept of that part of your question.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
You are asking what if a gay man or lesbian wants to freely, knowingly and voluntarily have heterosexual sex? I have no opposition to that.

But there should be no religious compulsion or coercion involved, including the threat of exclusion from their communities.
i guess you missunderstand my point :


If a gay want to become normal man want the other gender woman . and stop addicted to man .

what he suppose to do ? what is the solution ?
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Hi all

because most the human are not homosexaul (gays or lesbiens) , so they are odd/few ,in the humanity .

let's suppose that a gay or a lesbien want to back normal , i mean man (gay) want the woman , and woman (lesbien) want the man .why he/she suppose to do ?

Homosexuality is normal, and happens far more often than you seem to assume.

I suppose it is possible for someone to somehow find out that they are heterosexual after all, but it is exceendingly rare and not something to be assumed.

let's suppose that your wife get in this problem ,and become a lesbien , what you will do ?
let's suppose that your husband become gay ? what you will do ?

I would have to accept that. I am not one to demand people to be who they are not.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
There's an old legend in Revoltistan.....

A young man sat by a river lamenting his lot in life. His family wanted him to take a wife, but he lusted after a strapping young blacksmith. That just would not do. A magical frog saw his sad face, & said, "Monsieur, why are you so unhappy?". The young man said, "I am sad because I am not normal.". The magic frog said, "Mon dieu! I can fix that! I shall grant you a wish". The lad said, "Then I wish to be normal". Thereupon the frog waved his hand, & the air filled with a rainbow of sparkly shimmering, & said, "You how have your wish.". The lad arose to see what his heart felt. It was lust for the blacksmith. He then killed the frog, & ate him.
The moral of the story is. Prepare to become someone's dinner if you grant a wish ironically.
 
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The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
None of the above. They can partner with someone of the opposite sex if they want, but it is not going to do anything to change the fact that they are actively attracted to the same sex. It is also unhealthy spiritually, physically, and mentally to even attempt to do so. Causing anxiety, stress, undue relationship issues etc etc, I could make a bigger list, but I think the point is understood.

We are who we are, and nothing can change that. If you are Gay and want to partner with the opposite gender that is your choice, but it does not change that that person is gay.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Homosexuality is normal, and happens far more often than you seem to assume.
i disagree . that your opinion .

since it's rare and odd ,, and rejected by most of religions , it'not normal .





I would have to accept that. I am not one to demand people to be who they are not.
so gay , in first place he born as baby "gay "? so it's destiny to become a gay ? and it's impossible to a gay to change his addicated to man , to woman ? there is no solution : medical or religious , or psychiatrist . ?
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
i disagree . that your opinion .

Sorry, but this is not a matter of opinion. I am telling you how things are.


since it's rare and odd ,, and rejected by most of religions , it'not normal .

No, not even remotely so. It is not really rare,much less odd.

It just means that many religions really ought to reconsider their moral parameters.


so gay , in first place he born as baby "gay "? so it's destiny to become a gay ? and it's impossible to a gay to change his addicated to man , to woman ? there is no solution : medical or religious , or psychiatrist . ?

The exact causes of homosexuality are not well understood. But it matters not. It must be fully accepted. It is not to be treated as if it were abnormal.

Simple as that.
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
You're asking about something that simply cannot happen. A gay person will never not be gay, and a lesbian person will never not be lesbian. Even if they end up in a heterosexual relationship, they will never be heterosexual themselves.

A bisexual person is bisexual, regardless of whether or not they are in a monogamous homosexual or heterosexual relationship.

There's nothing whatsoever that's "abnormal" about homosexuality, bisexuality, or any of the others.
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
i guess you missunderstand my point :


If a gay want to become normal man want the other gender woman . and stop addicted to man .

what he suppose to do ? what is the solution ?

Accept that he is gay and not sexually interested in women, and never will be. That's the only healthy solution.

Addiction has nothing to do with it.
 

gsa

Well-Known Member
i disagree . that your opinion .

since it's rare and odd ,, and rejected by most of religions , it'not normal .

At less than a quarter of the global population, and rejected by most religions, Islam is arguably odd and not normal (neither Islam nor homosexuality is rare). In Europe and America it is both rare and considered odd, so perhaps we should seek psychiatric treatment for Muslims?






so gay , in first place he born as baby "gay "? so it's destiny to become a gay ? and it's impossible to a gay to change his addicated to man , to woman ? there is no solution : medical or religious , or psychiatrist . ?

Things that are not problems do not require solutions.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Sorry, but this is not a matter of opinion. I am telling you how things are




No, not even remotely so. It is not really rare,much less odd. .
indeed it's rare not and humanitly not commun .

if count by statistics , we will find that gay and lesbien marriage is less than normal (woman and man) marriage in the world .



It just means that many religions really ought to reconsider their moral parameters.
the animals don't have religions (nature) , they rarelly have male homosex . i don't know if there is lesbien in animal world :D




The exact causes of homosexuality are not well understood. But it matters not. It must be fully accepted. It is not to be treated as if it were abnormal.

Simple as that.
this is my point
, if we find out the causes , why not the remedy ?
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
How do we get left-handed people and very tall people back to normal? :eek:


Left-handed folk used to be switched (with a cane), in order for them to be fully appreciative of the need to be right-handed. There were practical reasons for this (since ink smudged when writing left to write with a fountain pen, or similar), but whomever thought switching people was preferable to smudges probably needed a swift kick in the jacksies to be honest.
The really weird part is that more of the buggers kept being born. I mean, the left-handed folk were clearly told they were wrong, yet left-handed babies were born. Worst part was, you could not even tell which babies were going to be left-handed, initially.

Imagine holding your little bundle of joy, and not even knowing if it would end up being a left-handed little freak? It's almost enough to have one consider some sort of preventative action, like a permanent hand-cast or something. Only preventative actions seem to cause quite a deal of harm. And in the end, once you get over the fact that left-handers are a little different to the norm (if you like to judge normality by percentage), you kinda realise 'Who gives a toss? Some dude writing with his left hand actually makes NO DIFFERENCE TO MY LIFE AT ALL'. So why was I thinking of switching him again? And by what right would I take such an action anyway?

Sure, this is a little rantish, and the OP isn't about being left-handed. But hopefully my point is discernible.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Accept that he is gay and not sexually interested in women, and never will be. That's the only healthy solution.

Addiction has nothing to do with it.
and If He (the gay) hope to be interested woman as most of men in world, what he suppose to do ?
 
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