If Donald Trump becomes a believer in Climate Change...

[fantome profane]

Hypothetically, If Donald Trump becomes a believer in Climate Change and champions progressive environmental policies will that spell the end of climate deniers in the U.S.? Or will Republicans in the senate and congress oppose their republican President on this issue?

 

[Quetzal]

Hypothetically, If Donald Trump becomes a believer in Climate Change and champions progressive environmental policies will that spell the end of climate deniers in the U.S.?

I am not convinced. But he would gain a lot of respect from me. (Which is much more important! )

 

[Kirran]

It would put a big dent in the climate deniers' numbers, both in the party and nationally, that's for sure. People who wouldn't listen to the usual sources on it would stop and reconsider.

 

[David1967]

You just never know. I think Donald is deeper than the character he played while campaigning. Just have to wait and see.

 

[Quetzal]

You just never know. I think Donald is deeper than the character he played while campaigning. Just have to wait and see.

Id like to think so. I just hope he does himself a favor and gives Twitter a rest.

 

[David1967]

Id like to think so. I just hope he does himself a favor and gives Twitter a rest.

D*#% it, we're agreeing again.

 

[suncowiam]

Hypothetically, If Donald Trump becomes a believer in Climate Change and champions progressive environmental policies will that spell the end of climate deniers in the U.S.? Or will Republicans in the senate and congress oppose their republican President on this issue?

Trump is the ultimate troll. He's been a dem all along and is finding ways to finally show his true color.

 

[Kemosloby]

It would mean Trump is one of them. We knew Hillary was one of them, but were'nt 100% sure about Trump. If Trump comes out for climate change we then know Trump is one of them.

 

[Cassandra]

Hypothetically, If Donald Trump becomes a believer in Climate Change and champions progressive environmental policies will that spell the end of climate deniers in the U.S.? Or will Republicans in the senate and congress oppose their republican President on this issue?

People take this wait and see approach, which is not a sensible attitude when it comes to important issues like climate change and canceling the Iran agreement.

I personally expect Trump to monetize his presidency to the max being a ruthless businessman. Like George Bush traded building contracts with the Saudis for oil concessions and took a huge stake in a weapon contractor to maximize his own profits in the wars he started, Trump will be looking for opportunities as well.

To the Saudis it is worth billions to postpone measures against climate change. It is ominous that President Trump first actions is to restart building oil and gas pipelines. That is clear sign in what direction he is walking. He could have easily postponed decisions on that, but he chooses to make clear he is committed to that.

The canceling of the Iran deal is another disaster in the making and hugely important to President Netanyahu and thus another thing Trump could profit from big time.

About being deep. I am sure Trump is an intelligent person, but that does not make him a good president who will take the right decisions for the common good. In the election Trump has consistently sacrificed the common good for his own agenda.

So instead of wait and see, huge protests before Trump makes his stand would be a much smarter. Trump is smart enough to avoid big collisions if he sees them coming.

The problem with climate change is that it still does not really capture the heart and minds of majority of Americans. We need government to take responsibility here. So far Trump has acted totally irresponsibly. Waiting for Trump to see the light is wishful thinking. It looks much more like Trump is going to monetize on sabotaging this thing looking after number one.

If Trump messes up these big things the rest will be insignificant. Sure he will create Jobs. Populist rulers do all kind of nice things to appease the masses to be reelected at the long term expense of the nation. I think what we can expect from Trump is along the lines of people like Berlusconi in Italy and Menem in Argentina.

If people want to influence his policy, the time is now, before he has committed himself to shady deals. For people who are still dreaming. Things are going sour faster than expected.
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[fantome profane]

About being deep. I am sure Trump is an intelligent person, but that does not make him a good president that that will take the right decisions for the common good. In the election Trump has consistently sacrificed the common good for his own agenda.

I certainly have never said that Trump was a deep thinker, quite the contrary. I do think he may be somewhat intelligent, but his excessive ego prevents him from really thinking clearly or introspectively. And I don't think that he has any strong positions on any of the issues. But it does seem to me that his positions are strongly influenced by those around him, for good or ill. And that is why I am cautiously encouraged by the time he has spent talking to Al Gore.

But I would never suggest that we should wait and see. Absolutely there should be large loud protests. If there is anything that influences Trump as much as those whispering in his ear it would be the yells of the crowd.

 

[Cassandra]

I certainly have never said that Trump was a deep thinker, quite the contrary. I do think he may be somewhat intelligent, but his excessive ego prevents him from really thinking clearly or introspectively. And I don't think that he has any strong positions on any of the issues. But it does seem to me that his positions are strongly influenced by those around him, for good or ill. And that is why I am cautiously encouraged by the time he has spent talking to Al Gore.

But I would never suggest that we should wait and see. Absolutely there should be large loud protests. If there is anything that influences Trump as much as those whispering in his ear it would be the yells of the crowd.

I was not a reaction to you but the general attitude of lets wait and see. That is so wrong. Be sure that the lobbyists that want to bribe Trump have long started their campaigns and are offering him sweet deals.

Trump is a businessman, he only has one position, himself. He is going to monetize his position to the max and sell out to the highest bidder unless it would cause huge public outcry that could endanger his position or reelection. Only if we can make the costs high enough for him will he stay away from attractive deals that will be disastrous for the country.

That is the advantage of a businessman, they can be influenced, they do not have ideological inflexibilities. But when the contract is signed, businessmen are less flexible than politicians. Politics is slow, but timing is everything in business deals.

 

[Nietzsche]

It would mean Trump is one of them. We knew Hillary was one of them, but were'nt 100% sure about Trump. If Trump comes out for climate change we then know Trump is one of them.

One of what? Rational people?

 

[Kemosloby]

One of what? Rational people?

Goose steppers of the Globalists, marching towards One world government and preparing the way for the final anti-christ, or maybe Negan.

 

[Nietzsche]

Goose steppers of the Globalists, marching towards One world government and preparing the way for the final anti-christ, or maybe Negan.

If I had a dime for every time someone thought that, I would be the wealthiest man on the goddamn planet.

 

[Father Heathen]

It would mean Trump is one of them. We knew Hillary was one of them, but were'nt 100% sure about Trump. If Trump comes out for climate change we then know Trump is one of them.

By "one of them" do you mean people who accept science, evidence, logic, etc?

 

[Father Heathen]

Goose steppers of the Globalists, marching towards One world government and preparing the way for the final anti-christ, or maybe Negan.

Oh, those conniving Freemasons, Jews, Illuminati, and/or communists and their cartoonishly convoluted schemes!

 

[Kemosloby]

By "one of them" do you mean people who accept science, evidence, logic, etc?

Rational people yes. That's how they control you, by making what they want you to do seem like the rational choice. Which is also the theory of economics, that people will generally make the rational choice. So by making false facts people naturally gravitate rationally towards the desired irrational behaviors.

 

[Father Heathen]

Rational people yes. That's how they control you, by making what they want you to do seem like the rational choice. Which is also the theory of economics, that people will generally make the rational choice. So by making false facts people naturally gravitate rationally towards the desired irrational behaviors.

So abandon reason, put on a tinfoil hat, and embrace superstition?

 

[Kemosloby]

So abandon reason, put on a tinfoil hat, and embrace superstition?

No, just resist the push for electric cars or becoming a pedestrian. I saw once where they had a plan to give you points for walking and your cell phone would track your activities to know how many points to give you. No thanks

 

[Iti oj]

No, just resist the push for electric cars or becoming a pedestrian. I saw once where they had a plan to give you points for walking and your cell phone would track your activities to know how many points to give you. No thanks

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