If "everything is energy" then what does this mean?

[atanu]

"Manifesting itself" denotes change, not changeless. How does that even work? How can that which is "changeless" manifest?

Like in dream your mind manifests a snake and you get frightened.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

Yes, literally, there is no difference between what constitutes me and what constitutes Andromeda or any other galaxy in the universe.

What do you actually mean by that, practically speaking? You say "constitutes", do you mean you are made of the same stuff? Or something else?

 

[Aupmanyav]

.. as are ideas of Brahman, God, and so on.

Do not say Brahman and God in the same breath. They are two different ideas. Have I ever in my 12,000+ posts ever mentioned that Brahman is God or that we need to worship Brahman? Brahman does not mean God, at least not for me. Actually the Isavasya Upanishad say that worshiping the unmanifest is erroneous and even more erroneous is worship of the manifest.

"Andham tamah pravishanti ye asambhutamupāsate, tato bhuyah iva te tamo ya u sambhutyāgam ratāh"
(In darkness they enter those who worship the unmanifest, in greater darkness those who worship the manifest)

Not if you really understand what I am saying. Interacting is the same as interconnectedness and is therefore a unity which is all inclusive of those trillions upon trillions of interactions. It's not an entity which I am describing, it is universal unity.

Runewolf, but you have not said what is interacting with what and what two are interconnected. You need entities for that.

Everything is dependent on something else.

You never mentioned of things, only of interactions/interconnectedness.

So you are a collection of 'impersonal natural interactions'. Now add consciousness, playing a game of Hide and Seek, and you have The Supreme Actor.

To interactions, add conciousness, still nebulous, vapory. Add something of substance.

What do you actually mean by that, practically speaking? You say "constitutes", do you mean you are made of the same stuff? Or something else?

Yeah, same stuff (or non-stuff, defining stuff is as difficult as defining non-stuff, stuff being non-stuff as well) - energy. That is the best we know today.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

Do not say Brahman and God in the same breath. They are two different ideas. Brahman does not mean God, at least not for me.

I'm glad you added "at least not for me". There seem to be so many different ideas about "Brahman", which as I observed earlier is a good reason not to use it in a discussion like this. It would be much better if we stuck to plain English in threads like this, and avoided all the ill-defined religious terminology which nobody seems to agree on anyway.

 

[Runewolf1973]

Like in dream your mind manifests a snake and you get frightened.

Yes, all of which requires change/interaction.

 

[Runewolf1973]

Runewolf, but you have not said what is interacting with what and what two are interconnected. You need entities for that.You never mentioned of things, only of interactions/interconnectedness.

Fundamental forces ie: Fundamental Interactions. By interaction I don't mean there are separate entities coming together, I mean there are forces at play in the universe by which all energy and all phenomena is universally connected. I suppose you could say those Fundamental Forces are entities, but are they really separate? I see them as fundamentally united. I believe one day science will be able to write all the Fundamental Interactions down as a single, all-encompassing, universal, interactive field equation. A single Fundamental Force or Interaction (written down as a complete mathematical equation) which explains all phenomena in the universe.

 

[YmirGF]

Fundamental forces ie: Fundamental Interactions. By interaction I don't mean there are separate entities coming together, I mean there are forces at play in the universe by which all energy and all phenomena is universally connected.

On the downside, due to the immense distances involved in the physical universe alone, it might prove impossible to come up with a single idea that encompasses all, as there would be no way to validate it aside from some things tending to support the idea. How would you test normal interactions along side of interactions happening at the event horizon of a black hole, for example? There is currently no way to tell as all the laws of physics go down the black hole with everything else.

I suppose you could say those Fundamental Forces are entities, but are they really separate? I see them as fundamentally united. I believe one day science will be able to write all the Fundamental Interactions down as a single, all-encompassing, universal, interactive field equation. A single Fundamental Force or Interaction which is the universe itself.

Well, everything would certainly be "unified" in the belly of our black hole and that may turn out to be the veritable goose that laid the golden egg. Once we understand what is happening deep within a black hole we just might unravel a lot of things. It would certainly be the most important idea to hit mankind since Relativity.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Fundamental forces ie: Fundamental Interactions. By interaction I don't mean there are separate entities coming together, I mean there are forces at play in the universe by which all energy and all phenomena is universally connected.

Any force/Energy/Mass is an entity. Einstein proved that.

 

[Runewolf1973]

On the downside, due to the immense distances involved in the physical universe alone, it might prove impossible to come up with a single idea that encompasses all, as there would be no way to validate it aside from some things tending to support the idea. How would you test normal interactions along side of interactions happening at the event horizon of a black hole, for example? There is currently no way to tell as all the laws of physics go down the black hole with everything else.

Well, everything would certainly be "unified" in the belly of our black hole and that may turn out to be the veritable goose that laid the golden egg. Once we understand what is happening deep within a black hole we just might unravel a lot of things.

I understand the immense complications (impossibilities perhaps) with regards to coming up with an actual working model of a Theory of Everything. That is why I keep my own personal Theory of Everything rather simple....Everything is Interaction.

 

[Runewolf1973]

Any force/Energy/Mass is an entity. Einstein proved that.

That works for me. Does it work for you?

 

[YmirGF]

I understand the immense complications (impossibilities perhaps) with regards to coming up with an actual working model of a Theory of Everything. That is why I keep my own personal Theory of Everything rather simple....Everything is Interaction.

Have you done much study of black holes? It might prove helpful if you have not.

 

[Aupmanyav]

It does work for me as well. I am not against 'the' entity. Good Night, Time here to go to bed. Rest tomorrow (but you may continue).

 

[Runewolf1973]

Have you done much study on black holes? It might prove helpful if you have not.

Not really, no.

 

[YmirGF]

Not really, no.

The fascinating thing about black holes is that the laws of physics break down and no one knows what is going on inside. Knowing a bit more about the theories around black holes might prove to be a very good investment of your time and may possibly help you work out the details of your idea. Likewise, a side trip into the woozy world of Quantum Mechanics might be great, just steer clear of writers that do not have any scientific credentials.


Likewise,

Calculus for Beginners and Artists

 

[Runewolf1973]

The fascinating thing about black holes is that the laws of physics break down and no one knows what is going on inside. Knowing a bit more about the theories around black holes might prove to be a very good investment of your time and may possibly help you work out the details of your idea. Likewise, a side trip into the woozy world of Quantum Mechanics might be great, just steer clear of writers that do not have any scientific credentials.

I wish I was more of a scientist/physicist myself. I would write a book about interaction.


Unfortunately my math sucks b***s.

 

[YmirGF]

I wish I was more of a scientist/physicist myself. I would write a book about Interaction.


Unfortunately my math sucks b***s.

Hmmmm... I was always one of those twerps who just "got" math and never had to think too hard about it.
You will have to do simple equations at some point.

Speaking of which, I have to make a spreadsheet plotting all the estate expenses. I've been avoiding that for a few days now.... Over and out.

 

[YmirGF]

Wow. Another page without wooshy-gooshy new age twaddle!

Go, Us!

@Riverwolf @Rick O'Shez @Aupmanyav

 

[Runewolf1973]

Hmmmm... I was always one of those twerps who just "got" math and never had to think too hard about it.
You will have to do simple equations at some point.

Speaking of which, I have to make a spreadsheet plotting all the estate expenses. I've been avoiding that for a few days now.... Over and out.

I have always been the artist. I use my creativity to figure out problems.

 

[Runewolf1973]

Wow. Another page without wooshy-gooshy new age twaddle!

Go, Us!

@Riverwolf @Rick O'Shez @Aupmanyav

Did you mean to tag me instead or Riverwolf on that?

 

[Rick O'Shez]

Likewise, a side trip into the woozy world of Quantum Mechanics might be great, just steer clear of writers that do not have any scientific credentials.

I've read a couple of Brian Greene's books and found them fascinating.

http://www.briangreene.org/?page_id=20