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If God Created Man...
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Audie
Veteran Member
And if wishes was fishes we'd all eat pie.
Ie
Totally meaningless, other than showing
you can't speak for yourself
questfortruth
Well-Known Member
I can! For example, this is my idea how to get 1 000 000. Riemann's hypothesis via Robin's Theorem
Quester
Member
Youtube ,,, the ONLY place to get hard data information.
Audie
Veteran Member
You call a link speaking for yourself.
I sense grave confusion.
Audie
Veteran Member
I just knew that would be our truth quester.Youtube ,,, the ONLY place to get hard data information.
Quester
Member
It's like NDEs ... the person needs to be proven 100% flat-line brain dead ... but on Youtube, these videos aren't even proven to be real ... they're just taken in and played without question.
King Phenomenon
Well-Known Member
One question. Could you do better?
Quester
Member
I'm guessing you mean "do better" with the videos? First off, NDEs (in this context) just can't be believed to be real. If someone sends you a text for you to make a video and simply says it's real - how do you know that's even true? Bottom line - you don't. It's kind of like the science rejection of the paranormal. How do they know? They use OTHER PEOPLE'S research and just say it's wrong. Really? Do they ever do their own PERSONAL study of the subject? Nope. I did ... and, it's real.
Comradio251
Member
Your premise requires a heavy dose of philosophy and theology to rationalize why there are many imperfections in the physical world. You could also answer it from a scientific perspective to some extent as well. It's like asking why did God create poisonous berries? Did He deliberately want to kill that naive guy who thought it was an edible one?
As for why genetic makeup can be altered is not inherently against a deity's design. The deity could have made it so that a species' genetic makeup is naturally capable of adapting to certain environments after some period of time. And that is the case. I see no problem with that. Minor changes in genetics to accomodate a particular environment is adaptation. There is no issue with that.
None of this means God is less likely to exist. I could look for every single instance of imperfection in the world if I wanted to as well. But I think this could be answered in a few ways.
From a christian's perspective, one could simply answer this as the result of sin when Eve took the apple from the tree in Genesis which caused all of these imperfections to start existing on the earth afterwards. Mutations, poisonous berries, diseases, viruses existing in nature etc. and this could make biblical sense I suppose. It could be a possibility. And I could leave it at that.
But what If I were to take the position of Intelligent Design Theory? I could see the intelligent design being layed out in molecular biology as an example. Just the same way someone points out imperfections I could point out high intelligence for something.
Irreducibly complex and well designed mechanisms in genetics show intelligent design. The DNA polymerases-helicase-tau connection and the cell's molecular machinery as a whole for example. when cell's divide to create new ones they need to replicate precisely 3 billion base pairs of DNA for each dividing cell. If errors occur, DNA polymerases kicks in to proofread top to bottom, the helicase guides it and the tau protein keeps it from becoming stochastic all while correcting for synthesization. This is intelligently designed. Plenty of scientists have used this scientific evidence as pointing to some type of designer. God, a highly intelligent entity, ultra highly developed civilizations from elsewhere in the universe. It's just so absurd to think that evolution all on its own did this stuff! And yes, it still is science to say this as one is basing his own informed opinion on the basis of what the scientific evidence is pointing to.
Another one could be A, G, C, T which forms the nucleic acid sequence in each base pair of DNA. The DNA molecule is a sophisticated information based system like a computer. Its nucleic acid sequence functions similarly to a computer's binary code of 1s and 0s for example. You're literally programmed like a computer code. Except it's even better, it's quaternary! So this begs the question, who's the programmer? Since coding requires a programmer, where is He? Why is He hiding? Nobody can answer those questions.
A designer certainly exists. I am not joking, it's way too hard to deny with all of the advances made in biology, computer science etc. A lot of scientists realize this now. Don't be intellectually dishonest with yourself about this.
As for why genetic makeup can be altered is not inherently against a deity's design. The deity could have made it so that a species' genetic makeup is naturally capable of adapting to certain environments after some period of time. And that is the case. I see no problem with that. Minor changes in genetics to accomodate a particular environment is adaptation. There is no issue with that.
None of this means God is less likely to exist. I could look for every single instance of imperfection in the world if I wanted to as well. But I think this could be answered in a few ways.
From a christian's perspective, one could simply answer this as the result of sin when Eve took the apple from the tree in Genesis which caused all of these imperfections to start existing on the earth afterwards. Mutations, poisonous berries, diseases, viruses existing in nature etc. and this could make biblical sense I suppose. It could be a possibility. And I could leave it at that.
But what If I were to take the position of Intelligent Design Theory? I could see the intelligent design being layed out in molecular biology as an example. Just the same way someone points out imperfections I could point out high intelligence for something.
Irreducibly complex and well designed mechanisms in genetics show intelligent design. The DNA polymerases-helicase-tau connection and the cell's molecular machinery as a whole for example. when cell's divide to create new ones they need to replicate precisely 3 billion base pairs of DNA for each dividing cell. If errors occur, DNA polymerases kicks in to proofread top to bottom, the helicase guides it and the tau protein keeps it from becoming stochastic all while correcting for synthesization. This is intelligently designed. Plenty of scientists have used this scientific evidence as pointing to some type of designer. God, a highly intelligent entity, ultra highly developed civilizations from elsewhere in the universe. It's just so absurd to think that evolution all on its own did this stuff! And yes, it still is science to say this as one is basing his own informed opinion on the basis of what the scientific evidence is pointing to.
Another one could be A, G, C, T which forms the nucleic acid sequence in each base pair of DNA. The DNA molecule is a sophisticated information based system like a computer. Its nucleic acid sequence functions similarly to a computer's binary code of 1s and 0s for example. You're literally programmed like a computer code. Except it's even better, it's quaternary! So this begs the question, who's the programmer? Since coding requires a programmer, where is He? Why is He hiding? Nobody can answer those questions.
A designer certainly exists. I am not joking, it's way too hard to deny with all of the advances made in biology, computer science etc. A lot of scientists realize this now. Don't be intellectually dishonest with yourself about this.
Comradio251
Member
A lot of them are not fake. How can everyone around the world congregate together and agree to create an agenda about a personal life changing event that occurred for themselves at vastly different times throughout their lives? You can't. And why in your right mind would you? You will say they are fake until you have one yourself.
Quester
Member
All I said was that these events cannot be taken as true just because someone sent you a letter and said their experience was true. The researched NDEs by medical experts with the patient in the hospital are the ones I trust ... Youtube is another story completely.
King Phenomenon
Well-Known Member
My question is to the op
CharlesStraight
New Member
Makes sense to me. They did not have to die. Eve was deceived; Adam was not but he chose to eat the fruit.
Yes, Eve was deceived - 1st Timothy 2:14 - but Not Adam.
That is why the blame rests on Adam for what Adam did - Romans 5:12,17-19