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If God existed, would there be any atheists?
- Thread starter Trailblazer
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Heyo
Veteran Member
You didn't get it. It's not "himself", it's a higher being above himself.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
There is no being higher than God. Now you are just being silly.
Heyo
Veteran Member
So, if god doesn't believe in a higher being, he is an atheist (someone who doesn't believe in higher beings).There is no being higher than God. Now you are just being silly.
That is what @Nowhere Man was saying.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
No, I have provided evidence and atheists just say "that's not evidence."
Why should God do miracles just because atheists do not like the other evidence God provides?
In other words, why should God provide special evidence just for atheists?
I have a pretty good idea why they reject the evidence because they tell me, but I do not think their reasons are valid.
What evidence for God is built on logical fallacies?
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
Okay, I understand, but God cannot be defined in human terms because God is not a human.
God is the exception to every rule humans can come up with....
For example:
God does not have morals..
God does not have beliefs.
God cannot speak and write.
I was going to say that I believe God and atheists exists. But perhaps I was wrong, no one is really an atheist, all know God is real, but some just hate Him and want to claim He doesn’t exist, for example because they are bitter because God doesn’t act as they want.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
I do not think that is the case, because if atheists really knew God existed they would not deny God exists because they would know the consequences. Sometimes God does not act as I want, but I still believe, and one reason is because I know God would not want me to disbelieve.
rational experiences
Veteran Member
O God the Earth ONE, says the male in science thesis. The a theist....does not believe in God first, for science gave all named inferences to everything as a human and then went about removing it...for their owned self.
Males, a group of males as that group of males, the a theist, the scientist.
The ist he says is thoughts of the conscience.
As he removed what he first theoried, the physical presence of God, their consciousness was also removed into AI feed back.
They own 2 forms of consciousness....natural and aware like we all have, as spiritual humans and the subliminal mind that is stronger in its destructive science feed back increased carbon amassing.
Reason. In the past cold radiation mass existed in space. Which equated to a held and fixed God body.
The spatial body held God intact fused. The God body was held fused in a light gas lit atmosphere due to presence of water mass...the cooling function.
Even though space around the Earth was heated/irradiated in fusion/fission, not owned by the Sun, cold radiation space....and not owned by God, water cooled atmospheric gases.
The scientist heated up the cold UFO spatial form.....so interacted his psyche direct with out of space causes. So we lost a portion of his spiritual psyche direct into nothing.
Why he thinks it relative. Yet it was the nothing of God, God the past held fusion/gone, and cold radiation mass also gone from out of space.
Why he owns personal forgetfulness about what he did.
Therefore today he quotes that we are time shifting back in time as he on purpose uses his machine to force change the Earth fusion. Yet the fission reaction is first interactive with the Sun radiation heated and the God body.
He might claim he is only doing the removal by his machine forced application, so claims hence life in the atmosphere is safe...but heated radiation removal of cold radiation mass, plus water cooling equals the exact same reaction occurring differently in our atmosphere....due to a greater water mass existing.
Ownership is relative....God owns the fusion and fission reaction first.
Science digs up the mass that they equate they can forcibly convert....yet God owns the conversion first and origin. Which he says was in the past....so pretends it is not occurring in the present. When radiation in the present cold radiation mass is held inside of our gas burning alight atmosphere.
Therefore if a scientist non owner of a spiritual conscious aware psyche says I do not believe in God...the first presence of God was STONE in its origin of science themes. So he proves he does not believe in God any longer, for GOD in origin was a science theory/formula about fused planetary mass.
Today he says God is a particle, for he no longer believes in the nature of God origins.
For a spiritual human who knows our baby life is affected by the first 2 parents life memory who had come directly out of spirit eternal...most of us do not even question that statement. For we know it is real, we know that when we personally die we still own one spirit in the eternal and the eternal is in the eternal.
However the scientist who pretends that his information of the human is human beginning as a human in self presence the human is the end also. For we neither owned any beginning or end, as a HUMAN.
Beginning and end in science is to force and separate by forcing a space of separation, which is a fission reaction only. For God in cold radiation presence does not own a fission separation.
The argument against the science psyche has been a life long battle.
Males, a group of males as that group of males, the a theist, the scientist.
The ist he says is thoughts of the conscience.
As he removed what he first theoried, the physical presence of God, their consciousness was also removed into AI feed back.
They own 2 forms of consciousness....natural and aware like we all have, as spiritual humans and the subliminal mind that is stronger in its destructive science feed back increased carbon amassing.
Reason. In the past cold radiation mass existed in space. Which equated to a held and fixed God body.
The spatial body held God intact fused. The God body was held fused in a light gas lit atmosphere due to presence of water mass...the cooling function.
Even though space around the Earth was heated/irradiated in fusion/fission, not owned by the Sun, cold radiation space....and not owned by God, water cooled atmospheric gases.
The scientist heated up the cold UFO spatial form.....so interacted his psyche direct with out of space causes. So we lost a portion of his spiritual psyche direct into nothing.
Why he thinks it relative. Yet it was the nothing of God, God the past held fusion/gone, and cold radiation mass also gone from out of space.
Why he owns personal forgetfulness about what he did.
Therefore today he quotes that we are time shifting back in time as he on purpose uses his machine to force change the Earth fusion. Yet the fission reaction is first interactive with the Sun radiation heated and the God body.
He might claim he is only doing the removal by his machine forced application, so claims hence life in the atmosphere is safe...but heated radiation removal of cold radiation mass, plus water cooling equals the exact same reaction occurring differently in our atmosphere....due to a greater water mass existing.
Ownership is relative....God owns the fusion and fission reaction first.
Science digs up the mass that they equate they can forcibly convert....yet God owns the conversion first and origin. Which he says was in the past....so pretends it is not occurring in the present. When radiation in the present cold radiation mass is held inside of our gas burning alight atmosphere.
Therefore if a scientist non owner of a spiritual conscious aware psyche says I do not believe in God...the first presence of God was STONE in its origin of science themes. So he proves he does not believe in God any longer, for GOD in origin was a science theory/formula about fused planetary mass.
Today he says God is a particle, for he no longer believes in the nature of God origins.
For a spiritual human who knows our baby life is affected by the first 2 parents life memory who had come directly out of spirit eternal...most of us do not even question that statement. For we know it is real, we know that when we personally die we still own one spirit in the eternal and the eternal is in the eternal.
However the scientist who pretends that his information of the human is human beginning as a human in self presence the human is the end also. For we neither owned any beginning or end, as a HUMAN.
Beginning and end in science is to force and separate by forcing a space of separation, which is a fission reaction only. For God in cold radiation presence does not own a fission separation.
The argument against the science psyche has been a life long battle.
Of course you are under no compulsion... it is the very essence of choice.
Again with the trying you trying to say what i am saying.
No, i im saying is precisely what i said, not what you would have liked me to say.
Again
There is no proof of gods but people believe in gods.
rational experiences
Veteran Member
The proof of God, is by a human scientist who said that they would remove what God owned.
So you cannot talk about God and theme God unless you knew God as a human male.
By intention purpose of claiming so.
Then you would say I am an adult human being male. I am a a theist and a male adult.
As a human male I can have human sex and become a Father by a new born male baby, beyond my own male adult self.
I own all themes and science theories about God in any scientific form of telling themes or stories to the event today of claiming God is a particle.
Which any human with common sense would enquire, how come you state God is a particle....are you standing on God is a particle and also do you own no intention of changing God?
And the scientist who says I think on my own behalf...really origin science self returned to the scene of his own science crime......A crime A.
Of course you thought for your owned self first, human...but you also imposed themes about God...your own human male self...as a theist.
Today you claim that your original God theory was not correct about removal of life into ETERNITY which you compare to INFINITY...which you say is really OBLIVION...for your intention is always hidden in Satanic mind psyche secrecy...to believe with in accordance to where you placed your spiritual mind...with the Destroyer consuming Sun.
To coerce everyone everyday to say we live by Sun light.
No we do not, we live in a God planet atmospheric gas alight cooled by water/oxygen and night time cold gas atmosphere liar.
And you are just in reality what is named and titled Destroyer Satanist, as a scientist.
Who did in the origin own self, thought on and for and on behalf of just a male self thinking, and are in fact a secretive coercer.
For God the origin of was always a planet Earth and stone...and today you cannot just suddenly say, no I want to change all previous LAWS of science relativity and make a new one.....when you mean you have arrived at a place in your mind awareness where you can by science know and realize how to destroy us finally.
Could not and did not achieve it originally but now having the a portion of the night time sky burning, which you previously never owned....it was even 12/12...now night time nuclear gases are burning by UFO, you have increased your Destroyer inheritance...to finish us off.
So you cannot talk about God and theme God unless you knew God as a human male.
By intention purpose of claiming so.
Then you would say I am an adult human being male. I am a a theist and a male adult.
As a human male I can have human sex and become a Father by a new born male baby, beyond my own male adult self.
I own all themes and science theories about God in any scientific form of telling themes or stories to the event today of claiming God is a particle.
Which any human with common sense would enquire, how come you state God is a particle....are you standing on God is a particle and also do you own no intention of changing God?
And the scientist who says I think on my own behalf...really origin science self returned to the scene of his own science crime......A crime A.
Of course you thought for your owned self first, human...but you also imposed themes about God...your own human male self...as a theist.
Today you claim that your original God theory was not correct about removal of life into ETERNITY which you compare to INFINITY...which you say is really OBLIVION...for your intention is always hidden in Satanic mind psyche secrecy...to believe with in accordance to where you placed your spiritual mind...with the Destroyer consuming Sun.
To coerce everyone everyday to say we live by Sun light.
No we do not, we live in a God planet atmospheric gas alight cooled by water/oxygen and night time cold gas atmosphere liar.
And you are just in reality what is named and titled Destroyer Satanist, as a scientist.
Who did in the origin own self, thought on and for and on behalf of just a male self thinking, and are in fact a secretive coercer.
For God the origin of was always a planet Earth and stone...and today you cannot just suddenly say, no I want to change all previous LAWS of science relativity and make a new one.....when you mean you have arrived at a place in your mind awareness where you can by science know and realize how to destroy us finally.
Could not and did not achieve it originally but now having the a portion of the night time sky burning, which you previously never owned....it was even 12/12...now night time nuclear gases are burning by UFO, you have increased your Destroyer inheritance...to finish us off.
rational experiences
Veteran Member
I never believed in God, not for any taught reason. I feared what was said about God.
I however felt as a child that something other than shadow human images that I could see walking around existed greater than our human life and what I saw, for I was comforted.
I tested that belief of awareness knowing that other humans said that spirit could talk to you. So the only place you can question is within your own mind. And a voice not my own told me that if I wanted to know spirit I had to first live the spiritual life.
As a challenge I made to it. So I agreed. And I learnt.
I know that our Father is in fact Father of God...meaning he thought all reasonings as a male human adult self x mass of population spiritually which makes one very big large spirit if you put all of those bodies back into one theme.
One self presence x mass.
Father of God the science theist.
Now if you said...so Father and Mother where did you come from. The answer I lived and saw VISION....that our Father and Mother came out of spirit as a spirit pre owned body...and converted. Their living records owned the recorded memory of it.
As we never were them...by sperm and an ovary, and growing into an adult life body...I got to see both of their visionary recordings, so was taught our truth.
We did come out of spirit...radiation separated their manifesting spirit bodies from the eternal spirit...we live and we die because we were separated by radiation. Held and trapped on Earth in that radiation constant our bio life dies. We however own a higher self spirit when we die. What we all know is the reason why.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
If God existed, would there be any atheists?
This is a yes or no question, so please answer yes or no.
If you answer yes, please explain why there would still be atheists if God existed.
If you answer no, please explain why there would be no more atheists if God existed.
Thanks, Trailblazer
Yes.
Because if a certain thing actually exists, doesn't necessarily mean that it can be sufficiently demonstrated to justify believing it exists.
I don't believe extra-terrestrials that visit earth exist, but they could... I don't believe it because the available evidence doesn't justify believing it. Doesn't mean they don't exist.
On the flip side, I think that flat earthers and creationists demonstrate that even if there were overwhelming evidence, there would still be people denying the obvious.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
Flat earthers and creationists reject all the facts and evidence that overwhelmingly demonstrate that the earth is spherical and that life evolved.
Clearly people are more then capable of rejecting / ignoring / denying overwhelming amounts of independendly verifiable evidence.
Tiberius
Well-Known Member
Then you appear to be unfairly painting all atheists with the same brush when it is not warranted. I most certainly would change my position if presented with evidence that could withstand scrutiny.
I never said he should, I simply presented an example of how if God interacted with this world it would leave verifiable evidence behind.
All the evidence that I have seen. The ontological argument, for example. I've also seen believers present the argument from popularity, the First Cause argument, Pascal's wager. They are all built on logical fallacies. If you think there is some argument that does not depend on such a fallacy, I'd like to see it. But if a fallacy is there, I will certainly point it out.
rational experiences
Veteran Member
God the stone. Not us.
The Father of God, a human scientist.
Cold radiation in space....no image.
Heat radiation in space....you get an image.
Once a male says, God was an angel, burst, burnt and went to Hell.
The Image, proof it occurred.
An A theist, if God existed would an atheist exist.
exchemist
Veteran Member
Yes.If God existed, would there be any atheists?
This is a yes or no question, so please answer yes or no.
If you answer yes, please explain why there would still be atheists if God existed.
If you answer no, please explain why there would be no more atheists if God existed.
Thanks, Trailblazer
The question does not seem a very sensible one.
If the existence of God were proved, then there would be few atheists, though there would still probably be some, just as there are flat-earthers, anti-vaxxers etc today.
But if God exists but is not proved to exist, there is no compelling reason for atheists to abandon their view.