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If God Wanted Us to Believe...

Balthazzar

N. Germanic Descent
Of course, you can call the universe whatever you want.
I just call it the universe without a need to call it anything else.
You're free to do so. I call it the universe also, by the way. I just wanted you to know what God is. To me, specifically.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Maybe someday you can tell me about these other things.
Baha'is believe that God was the cause of all existence.

Two other things that God is needed for is to rule and maintain all of existence.

“Baha’is believe in an almighty creator who has fashioned the universe and has made man in his own image; they believe in a non-created cause of all existence, in a single God. The word ‘God’ is a symbol for that transcendent reality by which all existence is ruled and maintained. ”
(Udo Schafer, the light that shineth in the darkness, p. 19)

Another very important thing that God is needed for is to send Messengers to humanity for guidance every 500-1000 years or so.

“Can one of sane mind ever seriously imagine that, in view of certain words the meaning of which he cannot comprehend, the portal of God’s infinite guidance can ever be closed in the face of men? Can he ever conceive for these Divine Luminaries, these resplendent Lights either a beginning or an end? What outpouring flood can compare with the stream of His all-embracing grace, and what blessing can excel the evidences of so great and pervasive a mercy? There can be no doubt whatever that if for one moment the tide of His mercy and grace were to be withheld from the world, it would completely perish. For this reason, from the beginning that hath no beginning the portals of Divine mercy have been flung open to the face of all created things, and the clouds of Truth will continue to the end that hath no end to rain on the soil of human capacity, reality and personality their favors and bounties. Such hath been God’s method continued from everlasting to everlasting.”
Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, pp. 68-69
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
If God Wanted Us to Believe...

Yes, G-d does want every of humans being to believe in Him, G-d welcomes it, right, please?
He has afforded innumerable reasonable argument and signs in his truthful Word Revealed/Exhortation for the benefit of the humanity, please, right?

Regards
 

River Sea

Well-Known Member
God is all like mysterious and ****. If he was just some sciency guy who told people how things work, the religious would invent another god to fill the ineffable void in their souls and tell them what to think.

@Tomef

People create gods using their characters' feelings and actions, yet this is a very low rank in the pyramid; what is further up? Yet what happens when a person drinks from the light within them, which feeds their spirit fire-burn?

Have you ever sensed god showing you anything in science? You're god, and so am I. And what causes people to run away from science and invent another god? What is this void that their souls tell them what to think? What is a soul, a spirit, and a physical body? How does one know what is being done when it eventually becomes a past story? What is the purpose?
 

PearlSeeker

Well-Known Member
Why did God leave evidence of evolution?
From a few moments after the "Big Bang" we have an explanation of how the universe formed into its current state without the need of any intelligence behind it.
We have evidence of several types of humanoids that lived prior to and even along side of homo sapiens.

If God created everything then we ought not be able to come up with an alternate explanation. There should be no evidence of evolution. There should exist only one possible explanation of our existence. That God created us.

Why create us and then leave this evidence laying around that the universe after the Big Bang could have formed on its own?

Why leave evidence of the evolution of life?

If God is the author of the universe then it could be designed as self-evolving. TOE just shows that no divine intervention was necessary in the process. It doesn't prove anything about authorship.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
If God is the author of the universe then it could be designed as self-evolving. TOE just shows that no divine intervention was necessary in the process. It doesn't prove anything about authorship.
Sure, but that is the point. Leaves no reason to believe in the big guy.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
And no reason to disbelief.
Yes, no reason to disbelieve in Scientology, or Hinduism, or Druidism, or Wicca or whatever belief makes you happy.

Lots of folks around willing to provide answers to why we are here a what happens after.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Yes, no reason to disbelieve in Scientology, or Hinduism, or Druidism, or Wicca or whatever belief makes you happy.

Lots of folks around willing to provide answers to why we are here a what happens after.

That is sort of the point. Science deals with what is and how it works, but for what matters you can't use science.
So you in effect end in a binary of what is and what matters.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
That is sort of the point. Science deals with what is and how it works, but for what matters you can't use science.
So you in effect end in a binary of what is and what matters.
Yes, my position, it doesn't matter if you can't know.:)
 

PearlSeeker

Well-Known Member
Yes, no reason to disbelieve in Scientology, or Hinduism, or Druidism, or Wicca or whatever belief makes you happy.

Lots of folks around willing to provide answers to why we are here a what happens after.
Science gives no reason to believe/disbelief in any Creator. The only reasonable position is agnosticism (for now). And rejecting some religious explanations (creationism) that are clearly refuted by science.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Science gives no reason to believe/disbelief in any Creator. The only reasonable position is agnosticism (for now). And rejecting some religious explanations (creationism) that are clearly refuted by science.
Yes, hold belief in abeyance.
 
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