If God was needed to create life what created God?

[Jayhawker Soule]

To me it is quite simple ...

To suggest that "infinite potential for existence" means "omniscience and omnipotence" is quite simply absurd. As for the rest, you assume a first cause, invest it with a litany of anthropomorphic attributes, and then feel satisfied that you have divined "the least absurd possibility". It's a thin gruel indeed.

 

[Panda]

Also, how is energy converted into matter? Is there a physics type of answer to this?

Yup E=mc^2. Energy=mass*speed of light squared. Matter can be turned into energy and vice versa(I think)

 

[sojourner]

So then where did it come from? Why can't we all be our own being? I don't think I am getting the right end of the stick with what you are saying.

It just is. Being is Being. We can't be our own Being, because we know we came from something else (parents). That's how nature works. We are given our being by something else. Not so with God, who is Being Itself.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

There are logical problems with matter always existing. Entropy would seem to insist that the Universe would be dead by now, if there was an infinite amount of time proceeding us. Of course, if there was an infinite amount of time proceeding us, how did we manage to get to when we are now?

Entropy would also suggest that a God could not always exist either without the same difficulties, nor could He spontaneously arise on His own.

Do you have any particular rationale for committing special pleading when it comes to God?

 

[Panda]

It just is. Being is Being. We can't be our own Being, because we know we came from something else (parents). That's how nature works. We are given our being by something else. Not so with God, who is Being Itself.

Then where does Being come from? What is Being?

 

[sojourner]

Then where does Being come from? What is Being?

Being doesn't come from anywhere. Being is Being.

 

[Panda]

Being is Being.

Define it, what actually is it? Explain it better than by just saying "Being is Being." I want to know what it is.

 

[benign6]

One of the biggest arguments for God is that life and the Universe could not exist without intelligent design however I have always found this an extremely hypocritical view. If something is 100% required to make the universe why isn't something needed to make God? Why when asked where God came from is it always said he always existed? Isn't it just as possible that energy always existed and that the big bang was just the first time energy was converted into matter? Or am I getting the totally wrong end of the stick?

One thing comes from another & that from another.
This chain of creation has got to end somewhere, it can't go-on for infinity. At end of that chain is GOD Almighty.

GOD is un-created that's the very definition of GOD.

 

[doppelganger]

GOD is un-created that's the very definition of GOD.

Sorry, but if "God" has a definition, then "God" is created. Indeed, "God" is created by that very definition.

 

[waacman]

Yup E=mc^2. Energy=mass*speed of light squared. Matter can be turned into energy and vice versa(I think)

I'm familiar with that equation, but I was wondering by what process is energy converted into matter. I have heard of matter being converted into energy, but never vice versa?

 

[benign6]

One thing comes from another & that from another.
This chain of creation has got to end somewhere, it can't go-on for infinity. At end of that chain is GOD Almighty.

GOD is un-created that's the very definition of GOD.

Sorry, but if "God" has a definition, then "God" is created. Indeed, "God" is created by that very definition.

I don't mean "definition" as in science. I ment it's very quality/attribute of God.

 

[Panda]

I'm familiar with that equation, but I was wondering by what process is energy converted into matter. I have heard of matter being converted into energy, but never vice versa?

Particle accelerators create matter from energy, when the electron and positron collide some of the kinetic energy goes into creating new matter, however it takes huge amounts of energy to create matter. The amount of energy in a glass of water is massive.

 

[Willamena]

I don't mean "definition" as in science. I ment it's very quality/attribute of God.

What's the difference?

 

[namguy]

What about for those that believe God is a real thing not a construct of the mind.

When your on your death bed you'll come aroubd to the truth...maybe

 

[logician]

No, I'm saying that we are created and that we receive our being through God's breath of spirit.

Really, provide some proof of this fantastic claim.

 

[logician]

When your on your death bed you'll come aroubd to the truth...maybe

When you're dead. you'll never know the truth.

 

[doppelganger]

I don't mean "definition" as in science. I ment it's very quality/attribute of God.

That's what I figured you meant. Such a "God" is created by the act of assigning attributes to it.

 

[Panda]

When your on your death bed you'll come aroubd to the truth...maybe

Maybe when your alive you'll come round to the truth

 

[~Amin~]

One of the biggest arguments for God is that life and the Universe could not exist without intelligent design however I have always found this an extremely hypocritical view.

Thats only because you have a limited understanding of how we know God
then you ask a question or thought on that false understanding.

If something is 100% required to make the universe why isn't something needed to make God?.

Because God is not bound by space, time, and matter, therfore if everything on earth
is bound by space, time, and matter, and He is not, that means He is not like His
Creation, so now we can say everythig is created but God.

Why when asked where God came from is it always said he always existed?

This is the way God revealed Himself and there are some logical arguments for it,
eg every human has a desire to live for ever no body want's to die, this why
when you tell some one, they look younger then they realy are they have a HUGE
smile on there face, if you dont believe me try it.
This a tiny manifestation of God's attribute ETERNAL.

Isn't it just as possible that energy always existed and that the big bang was just the first time energy was converted into matter? Or am I getting the totally wrong end of the stick?

No because every thing is finite but God.
You dont have the wrong end of the stick you just gotta understand
how we believe.

 

[Panda]

Thats only because you have a limited understanding of how we know God
then you ask a question or thought on that false understanding.

How do you know God?

Because God is not bound by space, time, and matter, therfore if everything on earth
is bound by space, time, and matter, and He is not, that means He is not like His
Creation, so now we can say everythig is created but God.

How do you know this?

This is the way God revealed Himself and there are some logical arguments for it,
eg every human has a desire to live for ever no body want's to die, this why
when you tell some one, they look younger then they realy are they have a HUGE
smile on there face, if you dont believe me try it.
This a tiny manifestation of God's attribute ETERNAL.

Ever told a little kid they look young? They don't smile than want to look older .

No because every thing is finite but God.
You dont have the wrong end of the stick you just gotta understand
how we believe.

Why can God get away with being infinite but nothing else can?