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If homosexuality is a choice, why can't I choose to be attracted to men?

Hitchey

Hitchey

Member
dust1n said:
LOL.. okay, okay seriously.. ANYONE WHO THINKS HOMOSEXUALITY IS A CHOICE:

Why can't I be gay?
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Not sure. I once thought individuals were born one persuasion or the other, but then what of those ancient Greeks? Homosexuality was culturally acceptable, and it seems there was a great deal of it. Maybe though the Greeks were just in it for the free sex.

I am a strictly heterosexual male. I have no sexual interest in men. Period. I don't see that I could ever be attracted to another male; but maybe willingness to have sex with other males is different from having an actual attraction. Check out Bonobo chimps. They, particularly the females, engage in same sex activity just for the fun of it. Maybe that is more what human society might be like without cultural inhibitors.
 
dust1n

dust1n

Zindīq
Hitchey said:
I am a strictly heterosexual male. I have no sexual interest in men. Period. I don't see that I could ever be attracted to another male; but maybe willingness to have sex with other males is different from having an actual attraction.
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Which is strange.. I am willing to be attracted to men, but I'm not. Either I'm not gay or have no free will. One of the two. And for some reason; people who are adamantly against homosexuality won't come into my thread and explain to me why I can't choose to be gay.
 
AxisMundi

AxisMundi

E Pluribus Unum!!!
Hitchey said:
Not sure. I once thought individuals were born one persuasion or the other, but then what of those ancient Greeks? Homosexuality was culturally acceptable, and it seems there was a great deal of it. Maybe though the Greeks were just in it for the free sex.

I am a strictly heterosexual male. I have no sexual interest in men. Period. I don't see that I could ever be attracted to another male; but maybe willingness to have sex with other males is different from having an actual attraction. Check out Bonobo chimps. They, particularly the females, engage in same sex activity just for the fun of it. Maybe that is more what human society might be like without cultural inhibitors.
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There is a world of difference between homosexuality and homosexual sex.
 
Comicaze247

Comicaze247

See the previous line
no-body said:
Maybe I'd enjoy it if someone shoved a giant nail into my eyeball. It might be the best feeling in the world, who knows really until I try right?
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LOL, damn it, I can't frubal you yet, haha

AxisMundi said:
It's amazing how many foudners of ex-gay ministries ended up as outed as haggert.

Is it some inherent guilt that makes these men speak out agaisnt gays?

Or perhaps attempting to shroud their own so-called "sin"?

Truth Wins Out - History Of The Ex-Gay Ministries
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The psychological term is "reaction formation." Basically, reacting the exact opposite to what you feel in an exaggerated way so as to try to hide true feelings. Like that one anti-gay politician (forget his name) that was found in a stall with another man.

Kov03 said:
Second and third base will certainly bring it to run. Any assertion that you will not be aroused by the touch and/or foreplay I would assume you're outright lying.
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Not true. Sexual arousal is a biological thing. There are cases where men have actually been raped by women, and not through anal penetration or anything like that. The woman would stimulate him into an erection, no matter how mentally unwilling he was. However, sexual arousal is not necessarily linked to sexual desire.
. . . or I could repeat exactly what Draka said, lol
 
dust1n

dust1n

Zindīq
So, then I guess it is safe for me to conclude that homosexuality it not a choice or a matter of free will; since I can't choose to be gay. Thanks for helping me figure one this out guys...
 
AxisMundi

AxisMundi

E Pluribus Unum!!!
dust1n said:
So, then I guess it is safe for me to conclude that homosexuality it not a choice or a matter of free will; since I can't choose to be gay. Thanks for helping me figure one this out guys...
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Gay isn't a choice you silly...

Religion is a choice tho. :D
 
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KeithCristian

Member
I've been wondering about this topic myself. I'm dealing with some depression issues/anxiety. I got so lonely not having a girlfriend/wife that I drove to a rest stop where gays supposedly hang out at. I didn't find anybody tho. Maybe because both nights were Sunday night. I didn't look too hard tho. I walked in both times, went to the bathroom, looked around for a few minutes, then drove off.

However, I'm not gay or bisexual. I told my therapist about this, and also told him I'm not gay or bisexual, just really lonely. I guess you could say I'm so lonely for women that I need somebody, even a man. I told the therapist what kind of man I would go out with (older fatherly figure) and he showed me it goes back to not growing up with a dad.

My big date for tonight just got cancelled and I wish I had the nerve to go into the the one gay bar but I don't have the nerve. Would I like to have sex with a man? Yes. What do I really want? Women. If I had a man would I want a woman? Yes. If I had a woman would I want a man? I'm 99% certain I would not.
 
AxisMundi

AxisMundi

E Pluribus Unum!!!
KeithCristian said:
I've been wondering about this topic myself. I'm dealing with some depression issues/anxiety. I got so lonely not having a girlfriend/wife that I drove to a rest stop where gays supposedly hang out at. I didn't find anybody tho. Maybe because both nights were Sunday night. I didn't look too hard tho. I walked in both times, went to the bathroom, looked around for a few minutes, then drove off.

However, I'm not gay or bisexual. I told my therapist about this, and also told him I'm not gay or bisexual, just really lonely. I guess you could say I'm so lonely for women that I need somebody, even a man. I told the therapist what kind of man I would go out with (older fatherly figure) and he showed me it goes back to not growing up with a dad.

My big date for tonight just got cancelled and I wish I had the nerve to go into the the one gay bar but I don't have the nerve. Would I like to have sex with a man? Yes. What do I really want? Women. If I had a man would I want a woman? Yes. If I had a woman would I want a man? I'm 99% certain I would not.
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Many people confuse homosexual sex with homosexuality.

They are two different concerns, however.
 
Beaudreaux

Beaudreaux

Well-Known Member
dust1n said:
For those that assert homosexuality is some sort of conscious decision.. why can't I consciously decide to be sexually attracted to men?
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Moreover, if deviant sexuality is a sin, like say stealing or straight adultery, then people must be tempted to commit is yes? I have asked this a bunch of times but I am always ignored: can some Christians who know that homosexuality is a sin please tell me about some times they were tempted to commit it?
 
dust1n

dust1n

Zindīq
Beaudreaux said:
Moreover, if deviant sexuality is a sin, like say stealing or straight adultery, then people must be tempted to commit is yes? I have asked this a bunch of times but I am always ignored: can some Christians who know that homosexuality is a sin please tell me about some times they were tempted to commit it?
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Good point. I never thought about that. If anything, I'm trying to tempt myself to temptation!
 
Corkscrew

Corkscrew

I'm ready to believe
Come on now, homosexuality has to be a choice; God would not have created you with sin in your heart.
 
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