Thief
Rogue Theologian
You would have to meet with Him....
to discover every last fact to be known.
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If humanity discovers every fact about the universe will we prove/disprove God?
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to discover every last fact to be known.
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
Probably so. Since God is based on belief and not scientific fact, people will always question God's nature as if His nature is separate from the people who believe in Him. As long as He is depended on the people (hence why we have so many definitions of Him), people will always question who He really is.
If God's existence was based on science and we onew everything, we would have no need to question a person's belief in God because we would Know.
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
How can science ever proove God and why would it? God is a personal experience. Science doesnt dictate truth all types of truth. Unless we dumb our GodExperience to the science of psychology...if that be, God can be prooved by psychology.
Its like what my former therapist said. He treats people who literally hear voices in their head but the people they hear are not real. Science/psychology agrees what the patient hears are dellusions but they also prooved that those delusions are real based on EEG findings and other tests.
So science can proove God. Since its based on personal experience delusion or not, it cant be proven if psychology is not taken into account for peoples need for religion and belief in God.
Unification
Well-Known Member
"to God"..... What is God?
God lover
Member
In the early days of Christianity, the believers were persecuted by the government. The Roman government jailed, and even killed many many Christians. The government apposed this religious movement. The people moved it forward.
I feel that we should all use our personal experiences to search for truth. I think God meets us in the personal experience. It seems reasonable to me that the one who made us wants to know us in this way.
It's great to hear your points of view. I definitely think I have lots to learn and everyone has something to offer.
God lover
Member
True.
Deathbydefault
Apistevist Asexual Atheist
God is being that is mainly supposed to have created everything and everyone, at least in monotheism.
It has no verifiable form, and is all powerful in various ways e.g. omnipresent or omniscient.
Is also supposed to control an ultimate reality which the dead from this reality are transferred too.
Basically this giant bundle of unsupported claims that billions of people follow different types of.
That's how I see God(s).
dust1n
Zindīq
People believe in God despite lack of any supporting facts of one, now. I see no reason why this will go away anytime soon.
I think at that point, man will be God. All knowing, perhaps all powerful....
God lover
Member
I like how you said ( perhaps) all powerful. I would agree all knowledge ain't necessarily all power.
I assume with knowledge about how the universe was created we could create another universe and maybe create life as well. However I don't know what limitation there might be. There maybe some physical laws that simply aren't changeable.
God lover
Member
We could understand how Pluto was formed without ever being able to do it ourselves. I hypothesize.
psychoslice
Veteran Member
Yea, I like the way you don't beat around the bush, but its so true.
Right now science knows less than .000000000000000000001% of the facts about the Universe, so we have a while to wait.
gnostic
The Lost One
Read the OP and thread's title and in my own post, Lyndon, again.
Nothing in my post mention "science". And neither does the OP.
The title stated if all of "humanity" have all the facts, not just scientists.
And with regards to science, it bring far more facts to the table than any religion.
Science provide facts by finding evidences. Religion doesn't provide facts or evidences; what is requirement in religion is faith and belief.
Tell me, does your bible explain anything about biology?
And I don't mean saying that human have heart, brain, two eyes, nose and mouth, two arms an two legs, bones and muscles; any idiot can tell you that. I mean how they actually work. It is through science that we learn how everything work, anatomy, physiology, cell biology, DNA, genetics, circulation, reproduction, etc.
Does the bible teach people how to build a houses, temples, roads or bridges? Does it tell where and when you can farm, when to harvest, or construct irrigation? Does the scripture tell you anything about electricity, or how electricity can be used to power devices or appliances?
The Bible, and all other scriptures tell you diddly-squat, when it come to facts.
The Genesis 1 & 2 give us myths in regarding to the creation and Gen 7 & 8 about the Flood, fables in Gen 3 about talking serpent or talking donkey in Numbers 22, and a whole lot of superstitions in Job 38 to 41.
Milton Platt
Well-Known Member
irrelevant question in my opinion. The question should be "will we ever be able to factually prove the existence of any gods?"
Why should that be the question?
Milton Platt
Well-Known Member
Love to see the math behind your percentage of knowledge known. Have any???
It should be pointed out that however small the proportion of scientific knowledge is compared to the whole, it is far, far greater than the knowledge contained in all of the "holy books" combined.
But science is not about disproving anything. it is about exmining the natural world in a systematic, rational way and forming theories that explain the phenomena without doing damage to the facts.