If Jesus Died...

[Colt]

They accused Jesus of being in league with Beelzebub.

They have more faith in the work of Satan than in the power of God! He apparently talks with Satan, knows all of his plans, he believes in Satan's power to run this world as a God.

 

[nPeace]

They accused Jesus of being in league with Beelzebub.

Yes, and Jesus identified them as being Satan's children... because they did not accept the scriptures he used, but rather, made up their own.

 

[Will Due]

They have more faith in the work of Satan than in the power of God! He apparently talks with Satan, know all of his plans, he believes in Satan's power to run this world as a God.

It's interesting that he brought up the wheat and the tares.

 

[Colt]

It's interesting that he brought up the wheat and the tares.

Some of these posters are in the Jehovah's Witness sect. They twisted and rewrote some of the Bible.......but then accuse others of what they did themselves.

 

[Will Due]

Yes, and Jesus identified them as being Satan's children... because they did not accept the scriptures he used, but rather, made up their own.

Jesus didn't use all of the scriptures.

His great exhortation, “Love your neighbor as yourself,” he took from the Scripture which reads: “You shall not take vengeance against the children of your people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

Because there are tares amongst the wheat.

 

[Colt]

Jesus didn't use all of the scriptures.

His great exhortation, “Love your neighbor as yourself,” he took from the Scripture which reads: “You shall not take vengeance against the children of your people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

Jesus chose from the truer parts and left the rest to die on the vine!

 

[Will Due]

but then accuse others of what they did themselves.

Seems like it's happening everywhere these days. Like a fad.

 

[Muffled]

The JW’s think Enoch and Elijah are living in a place in the sky and God used them for special occasions.
This is the biggest lie I have heard for the year. Is this April 1st, or prank night?

I believe that serves a speculation. There is no information on Enoch other than he was taken away. However Jesus has Elijah reincarnated as John the Baptist.

 

[Muffled]

Christ Michael, our Creator Son, is a creation of the Paradise Trinity. They are all unified in divinity, they are all God.

I believe that is totally unsubstantiated.

 

[Muffled]

It also had an opening working as a ventilator, right?

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I believe dead bodies don't breathe. By the time He is alive there is no evidence that He is still in the tomb.

 

[Dimi95]

I believe that serves a speculation. There is no information on Enoch other than he was taken away. However Jesus has Elijah reincarnated as John the Baptist.

If you read carefully Hebrews 11 you will note :

"By faith Enoch was taken from this life, so that he did not experience death: “He could not be found, because God had taken him away.”For before he was taken, he was commended as one who pleased God."

If you continue after this verse you will see also the names of : Abel , Noah , Abraham , Sarah etc.

Hebrews 11:39 reads:
"These were all commended for their faith, yet none of them received what had been promised, since God had planned something better for us so that only together with us would they be made perfect."

 

[Colt]

If you read carefully Hebrews 11 you will note :

"By faith Enoch was taken from this life, so that he did not experience death: “He could not be found, because God had taken him away.”For before he was taken, he was commended as one who pleased God."

If you continue after this verse you will see also the names of : Abel , Noah , Abraham , Sarah etc.

Hebrews 11:39 reads:
"These were all commended for their faith, yet none of them received what had been promised, since God had planned something better for us so that only together with us would they be made perfect."

Enoch and Elijah both received the reward of eternal life as they were taken to heaven.

 

[Dimi95]

Enoch and Elijah both received the reward of eternal life as they were taken to heaven.

Scripture says otherwise.

Romans 3
"But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify.This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God"

 

[Colt]

Scripture says otherwise.

Romans 3
"But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify.This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God"

The righteous were already finding salvation before Jesus came down, before Pauls atonement religion.

Luke 5:31-32 English Standard Version

And Jesus answered them, “Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. I have not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance.”

 

[Dimi95]

The righteous were already finding salvation before Jesus came down, before Pauls atonement religion.

Luke 5:31-32 English Standard Version

And Jesus answered them, “Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. I have not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance.”

Acts 5:12 says otherwise
"Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned"

 

[Colt]

Acts 5:12 says otherwise
"Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned"

The author of Acts is expressing an opinion about the erroneous “original sin doctrine”.

***The Genesis scriptures say Eve committed the sin first and death came specifically to Eve and Adam, NOT the entire world!

***The “Crafty Beast was ALREADY fallen, already evil, already sinful and working against Gods plan for the Pair. The previously populated earth had already fallen, Cain feared people outside the 2nd garden.

************Death or translation was normal and planned for humans, or else the world would be quite crowded!

 

[Ebionite]

The author of Acts is expressing an opinion about the erroneous “original sin doctrine”.

***The Genesis scriptures say Eve committed the sin first and death came specifically to Eve and Adam, NOT the entire world!

The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
Ezekiel 18:20

 

[Colt]

The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
Ezekiel 18:20

Sin is a state of deliberate, conscious disloyalty and separation from deity. It’s not the relative human imperfection of the child who strives to do the will of his parents.

 

[Ebionite]

Sin is a state of deliberate, conscious disloyalty and separation from deity. It’s not the relative human imperfection of the child who strives to do the will of his parents.

No, some sins are sins of ignorance. One of the roles of the priest was to make intercession for the people for sins that they had no control over.

 

[Colt]

No, some sins are sins of ignorance. One of the roles of the priest was to make intercession for the people for sins that they had no control over.

Sin is a conscious choice. Jesus revealed a fair, mature Loving God.