If Russia actually dont want war with Ukraine

[Revoltingest]

I don't dis "gun ownership"
I was talking about "gun worship"

Alas, "gun worship" is the common shibboleth
of people who oppose even reasonable gun rights.
(Let's debate "reasonable" some other day.)

IMO:
As long as there is "lack of Love" there will be "worship of guns"

I don't see billions change into "Love worship" any time soon, hence the "need for guns" will remain to not get hurt. But it's good to talk about these issues, and make plans to improve "Love" worldwide. Without "Love awareness" talks to disarm are useless.

I see the biggest problem as a lack of responsibility,
& honoring the rights of others. The obvious solution'
is for everyone to become a libertarian....which is
obviously not a solution.

 

[Spirit of Light]

They own everything and everyone that matters to them. And therefor a lot of people that matter to you.

 

[PureX]

And how does the economy benefit from this?
You keep carping about the wealthy, but not answering the question.

The economy neither benefits nor suffers. Only the participants benefit or suffer. Our economic system is controlled by the wealthy investor class, for their own benefit. So that's what defines it's functional value.

 

[Revoltingest]

The economy neither benefits nor suffers.

No, there is only suffering. This is because
resources are spent with no net benefit.
(Oh, there is also great harm to victims of war.)

Your posts do a dis-service to humanity.
People who buy in the myth that war boosts
the economy are more likely to approve war.

 

[Revoltingest]

IMO:
Good point this "security worship". Applies perfectly in this Covid Era with all it's censorship cutting down our right of free speech (opinions) and this trend that people are so overly sensitive about words like Islam, holocaust etc. So much so, that you hardly are allowed to share your opinion, even when phrased as opinion. Which is absurd. That was the prelude to this worldwide sensorship that is imposed now.

I agree with you, as I don't trust governments AND the ones I see are far from benevolent. I also see "security worship" in Big Tech and mainstream media esp. the past 2 years.

As bad as you believe vaccination & lockdowns are,
they spare you from the scourge of smallpox. Those
measures made this hideous disease disappear from
the modern world in 1980.....except for 2 secure labs.
One is in Atlanta. The other is in Siberia.

 

[stvdv]

Alas, "gun worship" is the common shibboleth
of people who oppose even reasonable gun rights.
(Let's debate "reasonable" some other day.)

First time I heard the word "gun worship"

"Reasonable" seems the keyword to me

I think it's reasonable that Kimmy has a few toys, seeing all the cruelty and fear in North Korea. Seems reasonable (understandable) that the more fear you have OR the more weapens others have, the more (you feel) you need also

I see the biggest problem as a lack of responsibility,
& honoring the rights of others.QUOTE]
I agree how you phrase it. IF all honor the rights of others, earth would be a paradise

The obvious solution' is for everyone to become a libertarian....which is obviously not a solution

True, that would only work if all "honor rights of others"

And the world is far from this ideal, and I don't see this change any time soon.

 

[stvdv]

As bad as you believe vaccination & lockdowns are,
they spare you from the scourge of smallpox. Those
measures made this hideous disease disappear from
the modern world in 1980.....except for 2 secure labs.
One is in Atlanta. The other is in Siberia.

I am usually pro vaccinations if they are proven safe (for me) and work well (for me), and if they are not used to push another agenda. As 1 or more of these critera are not met, I can't take the vaccines in Holland; I don't speak for others or other countries like the USA. You know better what happens in the USA, so you know best for you what to do

I have a very weak immune system, hence when there is a dangerous virus for me I get it for sure. I got hepatitus all the time when being in India (no vaccine), sick for years.
Then I took the vaccine and never got sick from hepatitus again (Visiting the same place, India)

I still didn't get covid (2 years), and actually I never felt as good as the past 2 years. But because it seems covid is very dangerous and Infectious then this proves 1 thing... Sai Baba is indeed God, AND He protected me the past 2 years as He promised me He would

And I trust Sai Baba much more than this vaccin. And I go 1 step further. If I get covid, then I won't use hospitals. I am fine to die or get cured by other means. So people can't play the guilt card on me. We all should be free to choose the protection we trust best. Sai Baba has been proven to work for me, hence I stick to that (besides reading the covid instructions I fall in the small group that should not take this vaccine, hence I rely on Sai Baba anyway)

 

[stvdv]

As bad as you believe vaccination & lockdowns are,

I am usually pro vaccination as I explained
The lockdowns don't bother me
My life did not change a bit
The past 2 years

IMO:
The Dutch lockdowns are Adharmic though.

 

[Revoltingest]

I am usually pro vaccination as I explained
The lockdowns don't bother me
My life did not change a bit
The past 2 years

IMO:
The Dutch lockdowns are Adharmic though.

The Dutch....cheese under their fingernails,
& those noisy clickety clacking wooden shoes.

 

[metis]

Maybe Trump and Putin should have a wrestling match to settle the matter.

Ya, but I'm afraid the wrestling would quickly convert to something else, but I'm going to spare myself the graphics.

 

[stvdv]

The Dutch....cheese under their fingernails,
& those noisy clickety clacking wooden shoes.

Cheese indeed is one of the items I like
Those wooden shoes however are not my thing
Though I like them when others wear them

You see wooden shoes in the US? Many Dutch emigrated. Or is it still a Dutch thing only?

 

[Revoltingest]

Cheese indeed is one of the items I like
Those wooden shoes however are not my thing
Though I like them when others wear them

You see wooden shoes in the US? Many Dutch emigrated. Or is it still a Dutch thing only?

Wooden shoes are just novelty items in Holland MI.

 

[sun rise]

Russia doesn’t want Ukraine to join NATO. This, it seems to me, is a perfectly reasonable position. There are good historic reasons why Russia should not want her enemies, which is what she perceives NATO to be, encroaching any closer to Moscow.

Amassing troops on Ukraine’s borders, seems an unreasonable approach to international diplomacy. But let us not forget that the last time Russia’s perceived enemies reached Kiev, in 1941, they were only turned back at Stalingrad. Before that, in 1812, Russia’s enemies reached and occupied Moscow, and were only turned back by Russia’s two great military commanders; General Winter, and General Hunger.

It's more than that given that NATO is already on their borders Member countries

The timing to me reminds me of the Cuban Missile Crisis which happened in part because Kennedy was thought weak and inexperienced. The timing of this appears to be deliberate because of our withdrawal from Afghanistan.

 

[stvdv]

Wooden shoes are just novelty items in Holland MI.

Quite a few still use them, esp where I live (small village), esp. little kids; boys only, I never see girls...probably because they don't have wooden shoes with high heels

in Holland MI.

Did you use a Dutch abbreviation here.
IF it's Engish, I have no clue

 

[Revoltingest]

Did you use a Dutch abbreviation here.
IF it's Engish, I have no clue

MI is the post office abbreviation for Michigan.
Sorry about that....I ferget about all the ferriners here.

 

[stvdv]

MI is the post office abbreviation for Michigan.
Sorry about that....I ferget about all the ferriners here.

Thank you

Now it makes more sense.

 

[Kooky]

Nato has no need to attack Russia

The USSR had no need to attack the rest of Europe, but that didn't stop NATO from building up an enormous arsenal of nuclear weapons to deter them from invading. The threat of a hostile, nuclear-backed alliance at one's borders would be enough to make any Russian government nervous.

 

[Spirit of Light]

The USSR had no need to attack the rest of Europe, but that didn't stop NATO from building up an enormous arsenal of nuclear weapons to deter them from invading. The threat of a hostile, nuclear-backed alliance at one's borders would be enough to make any Russian government nervous.

Yes, I do agree.
I am just nervous for if Russia or even Nato do attack we get a fullblown nuclear war or should I say WW3

 

[Kooky]

Yes, I do agree.
I am just nervous for if Russia or even Nato do attack we get a fullblown nuclear war or should I say WW3

Well, yes. I agree completely.

 

[Martin]

Hopefully Putrid Putin will be "replaced" by somebody a bit less KGB.