If Russia Invades, What should NATO Do?

[amorphous_constellation]

I am fine with countries other than the US and Canada sending a few troops to help Ukraine. When it comes to the US and Canada, I think it is obvious that all the Gen Z kids 18+ are going to be drafted and sent there as boots on the ground. The number of draftees is definitely going to be higher than it was during the Vietnam War considering that Russia is an incredibly large country.

P.S. The US Army can actually make middle school students mandatory volunteers. They very likely will because this oncoming war against Russia is going to result in too many US casualties and will last over a decade.

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Lol. Sorry. I just wanted to scare our youngest users. The adults scared my generation with promises of a draft when we were in school.

You are referring to something I term as 'legacy war.' None of that will happen in real war between the big powers, and we all know that. What happens in real war, is obviously the nukes, in which case, most of us die in a few hours, or days. Except for a few survivalist stragglers in the elizabeth islands, or something

Generally I'd agree with you. I wonder though about Putin, Jinping and their aspirations for global dominance. Will they leave us alone?
The West held a military dominance which we may soon no longer hold.

Well Putin recently made a statement about hypersonic missiles, which I thought seemed threat-like, and Xingping said something about heads getting smashed or something

 

[Nakosis]

and Xingping said something about heads getting smashed or something

He also has his sights set on Taiwan.
Both show they are willing to invade other sovereignties.

 

[The Hammer]

We need to quit funding and fighting everyone's wars. If they want us fighting their war, they should hire us instead of us funding and fighting most, if not all of it. That's my two cents

What do you think Trade agreements are, but a form of tribute?

 

[amorphous_constellation]

Per the question in the title of this OP, what do you think should be done by NATO if Russia launches a full-scale assault on the Ukraine? How about your personal response to such an attack?

They better not do much, unless you like the idea of becoming a piece of toast

 

[Twilight Hue]

Well NATO can take on Russia and Ukraine is a friend.

Then it's Nato's job. Send in the Smurfs.

 

[amorphous_constellation]

I disagree with globalism, I would reverse it; I'd let us get on with our affairs.

The problem is, is that globalism is actually a chess move to undermine asymmetry of power: it argues that the differences between two powers act as escalators, more than what they have in common

 

[F1fan]

I disagree with the notion of such as NATO, Warsaw Pact etc. allyships. We're constantly involving ourselves in conflicts halfway around the globe or continent that have literally nothing to do with us.

A lot of what NATO aims to do is maintain stability in Europe. The fear of Europe is a Russia that gets more aggressive while the NATO countries do nothing. Look back to 1938-39 when Hitler annexed Austria, and then the Sudetenland. Hitler was highly nervous about it but he gambled on France and England doing nothing, and he was right. This gave him more confidence and more ambition.

The discussions reported today suggest many European nations and perhaps the USA will send troops to Ukraine under their own authorities, and this will make Putin have to rethink any aggression by risking harming the troops of very powerful nations. I heard one expert suggest that Putin will not invade, and she gave reasons how it would be catastrophic to Russia's economy in the long term.

Putin was dumb to not invade Ukraine while trump was president. He lost a big ally. I suspect Biden made it clear that the USA is no longer soft on Russia.

 

[Audie]

Nothing. Leave them both alone and fix our own problems.

Kinda like what Britain and France did when
Germany annexed Czechslovakia.
Peace in our time, I believe they culled it

 

[Kooky]

Kinda like what Britain and France did when
Germany annexed Czechslovakia.
Peace in our time, I believe they culled it

And for similar reasons - a world war would likely be a disaster at this point.

Except Britain and France merely had to fear the total destruction of Europe, rather than the end of humanity in nuclear fire.

 

[George-ananda]

Then it's Nato's job. Send in the Smurfs.

Smurfs???

 

[We Never Know]

What do you think Trade agreements are, but a form of tribute?

Trade agreements don't pay for wars.

 

[We Never Know]

Human nature is to....take a little, if that goes ok then take more, repeat.

 

[The Hammer]

Trade agreements don't pay for wars.

They can, although not always, certainly. And nothing accounts for the human toll imo.

But I recognize War as an inevitability in Man. Only the topic/target changes.

 

[F1fan]

I don't know but I think they're setting up this ww3 scenario and they need to stop.

Who is "they"? I'm guessing "they" isn't Putin and his aggressiveness that needs to stop? Have you not read history, namely what happened in Europe in the late 30's?

What I find odd about conservatives is that they always cry about independence and autonomy, unless it is a threat by an authoritarian, and then there's no interest.

Why was there no problems with Russia in Trump years?

Because trump was a corrupt president, much like Putin. Something was going on between them, no one knows what.

Because he wasn't constantly provoking them I think. Obama, Hillary and Biden all seem dead set on starting something with Russia.

Because the Democrats you list honor Ukraine's autonomy and democracy? The West values democracy and ethics. Putin is an autocrat, he doesn't have to be accountable to the citizens, and he poses a great threat to stability in Europe. That is on Putin.

 

[Lain]

Because trump was a corrupt president, much like Putin. Something was going on between them, no one knows what.

Maybe Trump simply had a crush on him. It would be peak comedy to me if that's all it was.

 

[F1fan]

Human nature is to....take a little, if that goes ok then take more, repeat.

If you can get away with it. The more a person gets away with, the more they will want.

 

[Stonetree]

I don't honestly care. I'm not saying that to be callous; I literally do not care. Let countries fight their battles. I disagree with globalism, I would reverse it; I'd let us get on with our affairs.

The world went on with their own business in 1939.

 

[F1fan]

Maybe Trump simply had a crush on him. It would be peak comedy to me if that's all it was.

I think trump had a crush on Putin's absolute power. Imagine being able to order the murder of an opponent and not be held accountable. Or rig elections and legislation without any oversight.

 

[F1fan]

The world went on with their own business in 1939.

Up until September 1939.

Then that business was World War 2. About 60 million died in 5 years. Massive destruction.

 

[F1fan]

And let's note that the USA was isolationist in both world wars.

America was a silent supporter of England but made no effort to be a part of the global conflict.

That was until exactly 80 years ago today on a small island in the Pacific ocean. Then we had no choice.