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If science is so great why hasn't it solved all of humanitys problems ?

PureX

Veteran Member
I'm so sick and tired of atheist secular scientism it's just another religion.
It has been becoming that way for some time, now.

People want answers to the existential questions that they cannot answer, and they want to believe that they have some control over their own fate. And as they become more and more skeptical of traditional religion giving them this, they have been replacing it with 'scientism'. Not to be confused with actual science. Sadly, these people neither understand science nor religion, properly. But they sure do think they do. And they become as much zealots for their 'scientism' as some religious people become zealots for their religion. For both, it's the same motive and the same result, it's just a different ideology. One God inspired, and the other godless.
 
I don’t doubt…but I also think others (science illiterates) seemed to think that if science don’t have answers to some fathomable problems, then they should seek in their respective religion.

They probably should.

Not if it is about curing cancer or launching a satellite, but the things that science can’t answer (the “ought to”) are the domain of religions and their functional equivalents, “secular” ideologies and worldviews (I personally don’t draw a distinction between religious worldviews and “not religious” worldviews as demarcation is pretty arbitrary)

religions have as much hinder human progress as help them...as you said, humans being human, they exacerbated the problems.

I think we’d do much better as a species if we stuck to the tragic view of history where we cannot be saved from ourselves.

The Abrahamic monotheisms (perhaps via Zoroastrianism) are responsible for the optimistic, teleological view of history which ends in salvation.

The post-Christian west has, unfortunately, retained this narrative of salvation via the Idea of Progress that emerged from the Enlightenment (via Christianity)

The differences between science and religion, historical-wise, there was never a time when scientists have real political & military powers, whereas religious people have wielded such powers, and that powers have corrupted them.

I wouldn’t expect them to do any better a job of it.

Science and reason are value neutral after all.

Having a very “rational scientific” mindset can be very problematic if aligned to the wrong ideology.

What I am saying, is that scientists have never dictated government policies, nor led military strategy.

But can you imagine if some Islamic terrorist leaders gain nuclear weapons?

It only happened in fiction, that mad scientists like those in the Bond’s novels & films were megalomaniacs who wanted to either conquer the world or destroy the world.

The Al Qaeda leaders Bin Laden, Khalid Sheik Muhammad and Ayman al Zawahiri were all from STEM backgrounds.

The problem is humans, not science or religion.
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I'm so sick and tired of atheist secular scientism it's just another religion.
Science has certainly done more than religion to create the modern world, modern medicine, communications, transport, exploration of the solar system, relief of poverty, better seeds, breeds and crops, on and on.

What do you say religion has done lately that matters ─ other than that brand of ol' time religion that makes Trump possible?
 

ChieftheCef

Well-Known Member
Basically I'm about to out skool all these fools. It just hasn't happened yet. It's barely been a blimp/Carl Sagans with technology. There has been much much much more time without you than with you. Meditate.

But science can confirm the quantum field is goddess, not that Jesus is real.
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I'm so sick and tired of atheist secular scientism it's just another religion.
So you're chucking out your TV set, refusing all modern pharmaceuticals and instead seeing your local wisewoman, avoiding traveling in powered vehicles, think the sun and stars go round the earth, and the night is full of ghosts and Evil Things?

Well, I trust you live in a free country and are very happy, making your own tools and growing your own food, knowing from experience that God will always provide in a timely manner.
 
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YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
OK, please explain why. What harm am I doing to you?
I'm not trying to tell you what kind of sex life you can have, when you should pray, what you can wear, interfere with women's health, etc., etc.
Science explains our world, it is people who can use this knowledge to perhaps help solve some of the worlds problems.
Perhaps you could also explain how religion has solved 'humanities problems'.
While mankind is in more ways than one killing itself, science isn't going to stop people from polluting the earth and its components. Science isn't going to bring back all those who have been killed in war or otherwise.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Why can't humanity solve all its own problems by itself? Why should science do the hard work for an ungrateful species?
Well, that's evolution, isn't it? Yeah why should scientists devote themselves to changing the way things are done? Because if they do they might get hurt too.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
What a reply, what word or concept seems to be troubling you this time
Well, your remark assumes two things that are not true.
1. That all our problems are solved, or at least potentially so.
2. That science has either made some sort of claim that it will solve all our problems, or that it can reasonably be expected to.
 
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