If theists created concept of God,

[chinu]

Nothing made atheists to oppose it. They naturally evolved to oppose it.

Are all atheists of same nature, naturally ?

 

[LuisDantas]

I am not even sure what "false theism" is.

From @chinu 's usage, it is clear that it is something that is not expected to be held accountable for its actions, or at least that somehow declares itself theism but should not be perceived as such.

Maybe it is akin to the logic that makes ISIS "not true Muslims". Or it may be just a confused expression of the idea that theism "means well" and therefore should not be criticized.

Hard to tell.

The best i can imagine is that it is a personal judgement of people who worship a god in a (slightly) different way to the accuser/finger pointer.

I agree absolutely. If a "true" christian will judge and censure christians he/she considers "not true" christians then what chance have none believers got of (shall we say) equality in the eyes of the self proclaimed "true christian"

Ultimately, the distinction between "true" and "false" theists must accept the responsibility for making that call, if it wants to be respectable.

 

[LuisDantas]

Like; one cannot be a doctor by just wearing a stethoscope,
Similarly; one cannot be a true theist by just having a "good-book"

False-Atheist,
That is only I can say here.

Indeed, everyone should reserve the right to point out that theism does not deserve special protection.

There is no clear separation between your "false" theists and "true" ones, now is there?

That is exactly why this thread does not make any sense. You can not both reject and at the same time protect the legitimacy of calling out theists for their flaws and hypocrisy.

Why to pretend, if there seems to be any kind of danger, or significant drawback ? why ?

We should not have to pretend. Far too many of us were pressured into it anyway. Proselitist theism is a plague, a serious and destructive mistake.

 

[chinu]

What imaginary world do you live in where theists don't attempt to forcefully impose their ideas on atheists? There are currently 13 nations in the world where being an atheist is punishable by death. There are 5 states in the USA where atheists are not allowed to run for public office.

All these peoples are false-theists.

 

[LuisDantas]

Perhaps you are surrounded by False-Theists. (That is only I can say)

Stay away from false-theists, be safe.

If you are Atheist. I don't force you to become Theist.
Be happy, enjoy your life.

Do you even have a point then?

I never expected your approval for doing what I already knew that I must: confront expectations that I somehow "should" be a theist.

Do you realize that you are being self-contradictory to a huge level in this thread?

 

[chinu]

There is no clear separation between your "false" theists and "true" ones, now is there?

All already defined that in one of my previous reply to you.

 

[LuisDantas]

Theist = The one who is SURE about the existence of God
Atheist = The one who DOUBTS the existence of God

There are atheists who do not necessarily doubt that existence. Some of us just do not have much of a compatibility with the idea, for instance.

Whereas,

False-Theist = The one who DOUBTS the existence of God. But, pretends to be a Theist.

Pretends? How so? And to whom?

I don't think that this definition of yours is compatible with what you declared in most of your posts about "false theists".

Your sound quite sincere, not liars. Maybe you have read too much Islaamic literature and are therefore confused about what atheism is?

False-Atheists = Is also the one who DOUBTS the existence of God. But pretends to be an Atheist.

What an odd duck. Are you sure that those people even exist?

False-Theist are the worst people on this earth.

Not always. But they sure can be a pain, and even dangerous.

False-Atheists are like cute children on this earth

Atheist are true people on this earth.

Theists are also physically present on this earth. But, are no longer resident of this earth/world.

Am I supposed to know what you are talking about? You seem not to care anymore, frankly.

 

[LuisDantas]

All these peoples are false-theists.

In that case, what are you complaining about?

There seems to be nothing _left_ for you to complain about.

 

[LuisDantas]

There are far more concrete reasons than that.

Some Reasons Why Humanists Reject The Bible

https://americanhumanist.org/what-is-humanism/reasons-humanists-reject-bible/​

Those are just specific arguments. They do not make the fact that theism created the need for atheism any less true; they just express some of the details of how that became possible and necessary.

 

[LuisDantas]

All already defined that in one of my previous reply to you.

Then, frankly, you seem to be just wasting our time to feel wise on a flimsy - and false - pretext.

 

[chinu]

In that case, what are you complaining about?

There seems to be nothing _left_ for you to complain about.

When I said that I am complaining something ?

I don't think that asking a question is complaining something.

 

[chinu]

Then, frankly, you seem to be just wasting our time to feel wise on a flimsy - and false - pretext.

You are welcome to understand what you like to

 

[LuisDantas]

When I said that I am complaining something ?

I don't think that asking a question is complaining something.

Your questions are of the "why won't atheists just leave theists alone" variety.

That is a complaint. A highly hypocritical one, at that.

 

[LuisDantas]

You are welcome to understand what you like to

If you are saying that you are repented from being hypocritical and will try not to cause further harm, that is welcome.

If you are not, then you are just wasting my time a bit further, and that is _not_ welcome.

 

[sooda]

Those are just specific arguments. They do not make the fact that theism created the need for atheism any less true; they just express some of the details of how that became possible and necessary.

Read the thread on humanism.. Its on point.. If you are a Christian its an important read..

 

[chinu]

Your questions are of the "why won't atheists just leave theists alone" variety.

That is a complaint. A highly hypocritical one, at that.

Both, Theists and Atheists can ask this question.

 

[chinu]

If you are saying that you are repented from being hypocritical and will try not to cause further harm, that is welcome.

If you are not, then you are just wasting my time a bit further, and that is _not_ welcome.

Actually, I am saying, or will like to say.. whatever you are comfortable with.

I am welcome, or not, you decide

 

[chinu]

Well, to be sure-- nobody paid any attention to the theist-- until he tried **forcing** his theism onto other people.

Act of false-theist to attain an attention of other people.

Then? Someone said, "prove it" ... and we've been asking for proof ever since.

Now, false-theist is in trouble.

Whereas, Theist/true-theist need not to attain any attention. Because the one who got God, need not anything else, or in other words he/she already got everything by default.

 

[chinu]

Absolutely false! Even in 2019, I have just read of Theistic Countries, who are murdering atheists who won't comply with the Official Theism™

For centuries, in fact, openly being an atheist, got you killed-- and your family too...

... even in the USA, it can get you so ostracized to the point, some young people commit suicide...

They all are false-theists.

 

[chinu]

100% false. I was told this very thing-- repeatedly-- for decades. By force, in that I had no choice but to attend...

Again, Victim of False-Theists.