If theists created concept of God,

[HonestJoe]

Lets talk about Today.

You can talk about today, if not past.

Your OP was about the creation of the concept of God, literally in the past by definition. Maybe you could do a better job of explaining what you actually want to discuss here?

 

[chinu]

Your OP was about the creation of the concept of God, literally in the past by definition. Maybe you could do a better job of explaining what you actually want to discuss here?

If OP asks a question that talk about such distant history, long before any kind of records survive that all we have is (largely pointless) speculation.

Then, lets us bring it forward to Today and analyze.

 

[HonestJoe]

If OP asks a question that talk about such distant history, long before any kind of records survive that all we have is (largely pointless) speculation.

Then, lets us bring it forward to Today and analyze.

You’ve still not explained what you actually want to discuss though and your responses here are all over the place. All you have at the moment is a generic strawman condemnation of atheists with no real focus, examples or proposals. That’s what happens when people create intentionally abstract and evasive threads.

So if you really want some kind of meaningful discussion, I’d suggest you try again with a little more focus; Exactly what is happening that you object to (preferably with examples), what specifically is the problem with those things and what are you proposing should change to improve the situation?

 

[stvdv]

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Than, what made atheists to oppose it ?

Answer carefully !

I don't care whether someone believes in God or believes not in God
So probably they got emotionally triggered by this "God concept"

 

[chinu]

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I don't care whether someone believes in God or believes not in God
So probably they got emotionally triggered by this "God concept"

So, you don't care.
Since when ?

 

[stvdv]

So, you don't care.
Since when ?

Your question, to which I responded, was "what made atheists oppose?"
I am not an atheist, hence my reply "probably they got emotionally triggered"

Now you start a new question "about me"
That is a bit off topic ...

 

[SalixIncendium]

Who told to subscribe ? I don't think any theist did, even in the past.

If this was, indeed, the case, we would have no use for a word like “proselytize.”

 

[Jumi]

Without any religion making it diffifcult, I don't think most atheists would care about the concepts of God(s).

 

[ChristineM]

Than, what made atheists to oppose it ?

Answer carefully !

Evidence.

 

[ChristineM]

I don't think any theist ever told this forcefully to any atheist, unless atheist went to ask.
If atheist don't like the idea, than why not leave it ? why jealous ? why oppose ?

I have been told this often. My children have been threatened with everlasting hell because i wont bow down to a particular version of a god belief.

When people threaten me i do not turn the other cheek.

What you seem to be saying here is that i and my children should willingly accept verbal abuse because theists invented the idea of god.

 

[A Vestigial Mote]

But, what is the problem with atheists ?
Theists are not forcefully imposing their ideas on atheists.
Why not Atheists stay away from Theists and all their ideas, or concepts and mind their own businesses ?

You're joking, right? Theists in many cultures attempt to affect legislation - laws that affect EVERYONE - using their faith and beliefs as a basis for justification. They have nothing else to justify many of the things they take issue with, mind you, which is the reason they tend not to get their way - at least in western culture. They have no rational justification from within their belief set to explain why their religious prescriptions should be applicable to everyone. They just have "Well, God says so." Which is simply no good. So, if they want to argue for their religious ideas being a part of secular society, then they have to provide secular justifications... which many times they simply cannot do to a sufficient degree to sway anyone except "the choir."

Believe me... I would probably stay as far from most theists as I could if that were possible. Who wants to hear this constant complaining, honestly now?

What a kind of jealous/envy is this with somebodies ideas ?

Wow... you are WAY off the mark on this one. Envy? Please. I'd rather cast your beliefs into the core of the Earth after wrapping them in giant ball of elephant manure. I want absolutely nothing to do with your beliefs, don't need you to explain anything to me, couldn't care much less what you think about certain things if I know you put "God" at the center of your ideology. In fact, I'm so close to openly despising the ways that people think that allow them to come to conclusions about God and the supernatural without any way to demonstrate it, verify it, or validly compare truth content against anyone else's beliefs, that you may as well say that while "envy" is not one of the seven deadly sins I'm guilty of when talking religion, I just might be guilty of wrath.

 

[chinu]

I have been told this often. My children have been threatened with everlasting hell because i wont bow down to a particular version of a god belief.

When people threaten me i do not turn the other cheek.

What you seem to be saying here is that i and my children should willingly accept verbal abuse because theists invented the idea of god.

True theist is the one who doesn't force his/her belief on others.
I think you and your children are the victim of a false-theists.

 

[chinu]

You're joking, right? Theists in many cultures attempt to affect legislation - laws that affect EVERYONE - using their faith and beliefs as a basis for justification. They have nothing else to justify many of the things they take issue with, mind you, which is the reason they tend not to get their way - at least in western culture. They have no rational justification from within their belief set to explain why their religious prescriptions should be applicable to everyone. They just have "Well, God says so." Which is simply no good. So, if they want to argue for their religious ideas being a part of secular society, then they have to provide secular justifications... which many times they simply cannot do to a sufficient degree to sway anyone except "the choir."

A true theist never force any belief on anyone.
A true theist is happy with his "God", or "Concept" or whatever you like to say, and will never compel anybody to join.

Believe me... I would probably stay as far from most theists as I could if that were possible. Who wants to hear this constant complaining, honestly now?

Yes, it better to stay away from false theists, as most of theist are false.
Enjoy yourself

 

[chinu]

If this was, indeed, the case, we would have no use for a word like “proselytize.”

Actually, mostly there are false-theists. A true theist is very rare.
If there would have have been NO false theist,indeed, the case, we would have no use for a word like “proselytize.”

 

[Nakosis]

Theists created concept of God for themselves, for their own sake.
Dear, what made you think that by doing this, theists are making any kind of application into the "High Commission of Atheists" on this earth, and are waiting for the approval after a background check ?

Because it wasn't for their own sake. If folks want to keep their concept of God to themselves, I have no problem with that. Unfortunately some theists decided that God was a truth that all must accept without question. If you want to keep your God to yourself, great, however you don't speak for all theists.

 

[Nakosis]

A true theist never force any belief on anyone.
A true theist is happy with his "God", or "Concept" or whatever you like to say, and will never compel anybody to join.


Yes, it better to stay away from false theists, as most of theist are false.
Enjoy yourself

No true Scotsman fallacy.

 

[viole]

Than, what made atheists to oppose it ?

Answer carefully !

If Y created X, that does not entail X cannot be opposed.
For instance, nazis invented the concept of a super race, that does not entail we should not oppose it.

Ciao

- viole

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Than, what made atheists to oppose it ?

Answer carefully !

Theists made atheists.

 

[chinu]

Because it wasn't for their own sake. If folks want to keep their concept of God to themselves, I have no problem with that. Unfortunately some theists decided that God was a truth that all must accept without question. If you want to keep your God to yourself, great, however you don't speak for all theists.

I never said that I am speaking on the behalf of false-theists.

 

[chinu]

No true Scotsman fallacy.

As you wish to understand

 

[Nakosis]

As you wish to understand

Well perhaps you are the only "true" theist. In which case, congratulations.