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If Trump wins, will there be elections in four years or will he be a fascist dictator?

Jayhawker Soule

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Premium Member
We're on the same side. Relax.

Anyone who thoughtlessly asserts:

"What is normal is that there will be elections in four years . . . Trump will be gone . . . and the nation will move on (and will likely correct any of the terrible things that may happen if Trump is elected)."​

either does not care or is not paying attention. Which "side" you're on is irrelevant.
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Anyone who thoughtlessly asserts:

"What is normal is that there will be elections in four years . . . Trump will be gone . . . and the nation will move on (and will likely correct any of the terrible things that may happen if Trump is elected)."​

either does not care or is not paying attention. Which "side" you're on is irrelevant.
Is there anything incorrect in my post? If Trump wins, but then is out in four years, will things not start getting better/corrected? Will the nation note move on and survive as it has done after every other tragedy? I made no comment about the terrible impact another Trump presidency would have on individuals, but what I did say is accurate.
 

Tomef

Well-Known Member
If Trump wins this election (which would no doubt come as a terrible surprise to many), what do you think will happen in four years? Trump is often compared to Hitler and Mussolini and described as a fascist. If that's true, does that mean there will not be a presidential election in four years and Trump will be the first dictator of the "United States"? Or, do you think an election will occur as it has every four years and someone else will become president?
This kind of thing is more concerning in the short term: Why the Right Thinks Trump Is Running Away With the Race

Trump gets the feeling he's winning, or should win, and for Trump that makes it real. Hence, it becomes real for his followers too. The more that feeling can be stoked pre election the more likely they will be to believe it was 'stolen', if he loses.
 
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9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Is there anything incorrect in my post? If Trump wins, but then is out in four years, will things not start getting better/corrected? Will the nation note move on and survive as it has done after every other tragedy? I made no comment about the terrible impact another Trump presidency would have on individuals, but what I did say is accurate.

The Voting Rights Act isn't even 60 years old. In your country, an electoral system with free and fair elections where every citizen has - in practical terms - an equal right and ability to vote is a very new and IMO fragile thing.

Your country has never "moved on" from the sort of damage that could be done over another four years. That being said, I think the biggest threats in this regard are Trump's allies at the state level, not Trump itself... though a Trump victory would ensure that the DoJ is purged so that Republican governors would be free to violate federal election laws as they see fit.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
This kind of thing is more concerning in the short term: Why the Right Thinks Trump Is Running Away With the Race

Trump gets the feeling he's winning, or should win, and for Trump that makes it real. Hence, it becomes real for his followers too. The more that feeling can be stoked pre election the more likely they will be to believe it was 'stolen', if he loses.
His feelings don't matter, he is just creating a narrative that energizes his base and reality is no more necessary than it was in his Haitian pet eaters narrative.
 

Alien826

No religious beliefs
In recent years authoritarian takeovers have not been accomplished through the "traditional" methods of taking over by force. Instead, the autocrat has got himself elected by democratic means then corrupted them in order to stay in power. I see no reason to believe that this (if successful) will be different.

Additionally, Trump is not the real problem. A group of clever people have been working to destroy what FDR started for a long time, and Trump himself is just a symptom. In fact he is a problem to them as he is much too open about what he intends. And that may be our salvation, in an odd way. We can't say this is all a surprise. The plot is out in the open now, and counter measures can be taken. What worries me most (of many things) is that they have effectively removed the "umpire" from the game by taking over the SCOTUS.

We shall see. I wish I had more confidence in the result. What is sure is that "interesting times" will continue way past this election and the next Presidential term.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I think that is very unlikely. For one thing, the military is sworn to honor the Constitution, not the president. If the president gives them an unlawful order (like acting against the people of the United States) the generals can and I believe would simply tell him 'no'. The United States has long had a significant fascistic streak among it's citizens but in the end, we have always chosen to reject it. Twice in the 20th century and we will again now, in the 21st. This fascist idiocy is apparently something that rears it's ugly head among us every so often, but that when we finally see it for what it is, we say 'no' to it.

I think it's likely you'd be right but I'm not sure by any means. What I've run across is that our NATO allies are very worried because it very much could affect them as well. Trump probably feels he has nothing to lose, and many millions blindly support him.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
He doesn't have the ability to fire the top brass if they won't do what he wants?

He may be able to fire them, but if he wants to appoint replacements, they would need Senate confirmation (just like Cabinet posts, Federal judgeships, etc.).
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
The world will still have to put up with him constantly peddling bulll**** at every opportunity though, president or not,
Oh well, the only power he will have over me is to rile me up, and I don't give him that power.
 
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