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If we stopped being so dependent on big corporations

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Why are people thinking we must have big corporations to run our lives? Why do we not go back to each family-supporting themself with food and being more of a society that helps each other on farms, or in small businesses that are needed to have small communities?

Family-run bakery, woodshops, farmers, blacksmith and so on. why the big overproduction of products?
If we where less dependent on government and rich people we would maybe live more happy feel freer?
 

leov

Well-Known Member
Why are people thinking we must have big corporations to run our lives? Why do we not go back to each family-supporting themself with food and being more of a society that helps each other on farms, or in small businesses that are needed to have small communities?

Family-run bakery, woodshops, farmers, blacksmith and so on. why the big overproduction of products?
If we where less dependent on government and rich people we would maybe live more happy feel freer?
Govern-ment=control-mind.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Why are people thinking we must have big corporations to run our lives? Why do we not go back to each family-supporting themself with food and being more of a society that helps each other on farms, or in small businesses that are needed to have small communities?

Family-run bakery, woodshops, farmers, blacksmith and so on. why the big overproduction of products?
If we where less dependent on government and rich people we would maybe live more happy feel freer?
If you think big companies are running your life,
then perhaps they're not the problem...you are.
Thinking that way is the problem. They just offer
goods & services, most of which you can easily
do without.
Also, some things require scale to be affordable,
eg, cars. That bus you want to buy....you won't
find a mom & pop operation producing those.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
Why are people thinking we must have big corporations to run our lives? Why do we not go back to each family-supporting themself with food and being more of a society that helps each other on farms, or in small businesses that are needed to have small communities?

Family-run bakery, woodshops, farmers, blacksmith and so on. why the big overproduction of products?
If we where less dependent on government and rich people we would maybe live more happy feel freer?


Did you make the device you're posting on? Could your neighbor have made such a device for you? Who, in your circle of friends, had the wherewithal and ingenuity to set up a world wide web so you could regale us with your insight? Reality is sometimes a tricky little devil...
 

74x12

Well-Known Member
Why are people thinking we must have big corporations to run our lives? Why do we not go back to each family-supporting themself with food and being more of a society that helps each other on farms, or in small businesses that are needed to have small communities?

Family-run bakery, woodshops, farmers, blacksmith and so on. why the big overproduction of products?
If we where less dependent on government and rich people we would maybe live more happy feel freer?
You're living in the past ... No offense but that just won't cut it with over 7 billion people cramped in mega cities around the world.

People aren't capable enough to fend for themselves anymore or live on farmsteads. That's why they always vote for politicians that will take their freedom in exchange for taking care of them and giving them sense of security. Security of safety, security of economy etc. But people don't care about personal liberty enough.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
If you think big companies are running your life,
then perhaps they're not the problem...you are.
They just offer goods & services, most of which
you can easily do without.
Also, some things require scale to be affordable,
eg, cars. That bus you want to buy....you won't
find a mom & pop operation producing those.
I will buy a used bus :) from a private person, no need to buy from corporation there :)
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Did you make the device you're posting on? Could your neighbor have made such a device for you? Who, in your circle of friends, had the wherewithal and ingenuity to set up a world wide web so you could regale us with your insight? Reality is sometimes a tricky little devil...
I have come to the conclution that i do not need computer or internet personally anymore, and no i do not say any of my neighbours would make them.
I am sure it would be more healthy to live more outside then always look at the computer day in and day out. So yes i will be gradually less and less on the internet
 

74x12

Well-Known Member
Why are people thinking we must have big corporations to run our lives? Why do we not go back to each family-supporting themself with food and being more of a society that helps each other on farms, or in small businesses that are needed to have small communities?

Family-run bakery, woodshops, farmers, blacksmith and so on. why the big overproduction of products?
If we where less dependent on government and rich people we would maybe live more happy feel freer?
A lot of people are going off the grid in the USA and starting their own farmsteads. It is a full time job though. You can do it here; but it's not for everyone.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
You're living in the past ... No offense but that just won't cut it with over 7 billion people cramped in mega cities around the world.

People aren't capable enough to fend for themselves anymore or live on farmsteads. That's why they always vote for politicians that will take their freedom in exchange for taking care of them and giving them sense of security. Security of safety, security of economy etc. But people don't care about personal liberty enough.
I know that not everyone can or will live this way. but i do also see the benefit from it.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I will buy a used bus :) from a private person, no need to buy from corporation there :)
A corporation originally made the bus.

I wonder...
Why do so many people worry about corporations,
yet remain silent about government having too much
control?
I think about my life...
Who tried to send me to Vietnam to kill or be killed?
Corporations never did anything to me even
remotely approaching that evil. Powerful they are.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
A corporation originally made the bus.

I wonder...
Why do so many people worry about corporations,
yet remain silent about government having too much
control?
I think about my life...
Who tried to send me to Vietnam to kill or be killed?
Corporations never did anything to me even
remotely approaching that evil. Powerful they are.
I think you noticed that my trust in Government is on a very limited trust. So to me government, military and corporations are something we could limit their power of people.
But if others want to think different that's ok to me
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I think you noticed that my trust in Government is on a very limited trust. So to me government, military and corporations are something we could limit their power of people.
But if others want to think different that's ok to me
In the contest for power, government trumps business.
People complain about the influence of the latter, but
tis the former which really puts boots on necks.
 

McBell

Unbound
A corporation originally made the bus.

I wonder...
Why do so many people worry about corporations,
yet remain silent about government having too much
control?
I think about my life...
Who tried to send me to Vietnam to kill or be killed?
Corporations never did anything to me even
remotely approaching that evil. Powerful they are.
You seem to be missing the connection between the two....
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
It is true that Government has to much power, no doubt about that
And yet, complaining on RF about government will
earn one great scorn from many the left. They'll
say that business is the problem. But They vote
for the very politicians who treat us so badly.
 

McBell

Unbound
And yet, complaining on RF about government will
earn one great scorn from many the left. They'll
say that business is the problem. But They vote
for the very politicians who treat us so badly.
Fair point.
But it seems to me that corporations pretty much own the Government.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
And yet, complaining on RF about government will
earn one great scorn from many the left. They'll
say that business is the problem. But They vote
for the very politicians who treat us so badly.
Personally i am not so worried about what others think of my opinions :) But i do respect that others see it differently then i do :)
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Fair point.
But it seems to me that corporations pretty much own the Government.
That's a commonly said thing.
But it's empty.
All the worst politicians were voted into office by people, not corporations.
And these politicians got re-elected for doing what they do.
Again, people re-voted them to remain in office, not corporations.
And there's a great difference in power.
Even anti-corporate types, if they're honest, will recognize that
government has much greater power. We can avoid doing business
with any corporation, but we cannot avoid government, especially
the fed. Government can capture us, beat us, torture us, force us
to kill, imprison us, rob us, etc, etc. No corporation can do that.
 
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