Was this a rhetorical question? Because i believe i know the point of waking up. Im just not sure how it fits with the analogy of Brahman.
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No, it was supposed to be an analogy, but perhaps it wasn't a very good one. I'm not skilled at analogies. Sorry.
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To my knowledge there are three Christian sects that accept the possibility, as these three are very humble in their affirmations: Christian Universalists; The Unity Church; the liberal sect of The Society of Friends.
Where do all of the new souls come from?
What new souls?
This one's understanding of reincarnation is a reflection of how the mechanics of the universe are known to work - matter/energy is not created or destroyed, it only transforms. The universe is the great recycler. Everything gets recycled and transformed into something else. "New" souls come from the ancestors, who weave in and out and through; it's not a fixed and stagnant, but an ever-moving current.
What new souls?
This one's understanding of reincarnation is a reflection of how the mechanics of the universe are known to work - matter/energy is not created or destroyed, it only transforms. The universe is the great recycler. Everything gets recycled and transformed into something else. "New" souls come from the ancestors, who weave in and out and through; it's not a fixed and stagnant, but an ever-moving current.
Some point I was going to make have been made.
In Meher Baba's exposition, a soul first develops through the process of becoming gas then rock then mineral then various plants and animals and is finally fully developed as a soul in human beings. And as well, souls can migrate between worlds
In Meher Baba's exposition, a soul first develops through the process of becoming gas then rock then mineral then various plants and animals and is finally fully developed as a soul in human beings. And as well, souls can migrate between worlds
Ok, I don't see anything that would imply that I only thought the process was confined to Earth or humans. If you could point that part out so I could correct it.
Are souls then dependent on matter and energy? IOW, souls are physical?
That is certainly more believable than some idea of a non-material existence.
You mention the growing population of Earth in your OP. While human population has increased, the population other species as a whole has declined.
Maybe the species we're killing off is where the "souls" are coming from?
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There is a limit to the "I am" in I think, therefore I am.
If you check objectively it in effect only claims something is going on, therefore something is going on. But that is not given that it is an "I" in any meaningful sense beyound something is going on.
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Wouldn't that depend on the you/"I" that I identify with?
You mention the growing population of Earth in your OP. While human population has increased, the population other species as a whole has declined.
Maybe the species we're killing off is where the "souls" are coming from?
Sure, I could have made that assumption as well but I wanted to hear what other people thought. Based on their own beliefs.
RestlessSoul
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Yes, and how strongly you identify with it perhaps.
Id, ego, super-ego, and the various roles adopted by the self to accommodate these; in identifying with those mental constructs which mediate between experience and perception, we alienate ourselves from the greater reality of which we are a part.
Depends on how you want to tell the story.
I tend to use the term soul and spirit interchangeably, and the spirit of a thing is the whole of that which it is. Some of that whole might be characterized as matter and energy while some of that might not. All of that whole - that gestalt - is "dependent" on all of the whole or all of its parts, if you want to use that term for it. "Interdependent" would be a better term, perhaps. All parts of something's nature establish it's nature or spirit or essence or soul: memory, idea, concept; form, particles, energy; past, present, future; relationships, roles, connections.
I am not a substance monist nor a substance dualist, so I'm not going to tell the story in a way that ignores the lessons seen by many-eyed vision. Existence is - less intellectualizing, more experiencing. At the end of the day, the what-something-is (the spirit/soul/nature/essence) just is what it is and what some human wants to classify it as is irrelevant. We only ever grasp a fraction of the totality of anything anyway.
FYI, I generally just identify as a brain. Not to exclude me from the rest of the universe but just to provide a practical boundary.
When I was young I did the same. Slowly I realized the value of identifying as an entire body.
Certainly much better, imo, than some invisible observer.
That came later
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I believe there is no indication that God is creating new spirits. I believe God has a plan for ending temporal life before the number of spirits available runs out
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Jesus in me
I believe the reincarnation concepts provided by eastern philosophers have no basis in truth.