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Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
When I first was studying Islam, this was one of the things that I questioned and until I finally started to understand it.. The more I studied, the more I understood. :)
That is the problem. The more I studied Islam, the more inexplicable it became to me. :)
 

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Sometimes too much is just too much. A bit of simplicity sometimes is all that it needs. For those with understanding. Unless they aren't really wanting to know but to make fun.
Salam

True, this is a poem I wrote:

The Holy Females

Peace be upon Sarah
The equal of Abraham
Who was patient with him
Together they were blessed
Their chosen offspring and them
Along with Lut
Making the holy family of the time

Peace be upon Mariam
The holy Sister of Musa
Who the Mana flowed through her hands
Who watched over Musa for the sake of him and her mother
And was equal to Musa and Harun

Peace be upon Mariam mother of Jesus named after the first Mariam
Who faced accusations and bore them patiently
And who's complete purity had no proof except from the divine books
And words of his Messengers
Who was truly exalted and pious

Peace be upon Fatima
The best chosen lady of all time
Daughter yet mother of her father
Who called to the last revelation
Spoke bravely in times of peril
And was a Messenger of her time
Equal of Mohammad and Ali
She is still there in the bright sky
Luminous, holy, and light to the world

Other then his chosen ones
Peace be upon the saints of women
From Zainab who rallied people back to cause of justice
And right path
The mother of afflictions
And Umal Baneen who sacrificed so many sons in love of Hussain
And Asiya wife of Pharaoh who's heart was always with the oppressed
And who called God in times of trial and peril
Taking side of truth
And Umm Salama a wife of the Prophet,
who would witnessed the Angels cry for Hussain
And peace be upon Khadija The Great
Who without her wealth Islam foundations would not have been built
Peace be upon Ma'asooma sister of Imam Reda
Who was a scholar and a proof of the right path by her love of Ahlulbayt

Peace be upon every chosen lady who was part of an Ahlulbayt chosen by God
Equal of the Messengers and Prophets of that time
And peace be upon every mother of a holy chosen one by God
Who God out of his wisdom chose them to be a mother of a guiding leader to mankind
 

MyM

Well-Known Member
Salam

True, this is a poem I wrote:

The Holy Females

Peace be upon Sarah
The equal of Abraham
Who was patient with him
Together they were blessed
Their chosen offspring and them
Along with Lut
Making the holy family of the time

Peace be upon Mariam
The holy Sister of Musa
Who the Mana flowed through her hands
Who watched over Musa for the sake of him and her mother
And was equal to Musa and Harun

Peace be upon Mariam mother of Jesus named after the first Mariam
Who faced accusations and bore them patiently
And who's complete purity had no proof except from the divine books
And words of his Messengers
Who was truly exalted and pious

Peace be upon Fatima
The best chosen lady of all time
Daughter yet mother of her father
Who called to the last revelation
Spoke bravely in times of peril
And was a Messenger of her time
Equal of Mohammad and Ali
She is still there in the bright sky
Luminous, holy, and light to the world

Other then his chosen ones
Peace be upon the saints of women
From Zainab who rallied people back to cause of justice
And right path
The mother of afflictions
And Umal Baneen who sacrificed so many sons in love of Hussain
And Asiya wife of Pharaoh who's heart was always with the oppressed
And who called God in times of trial and peril
Taking side of truth
And Umm Salama a wife of the Prophet,
who would witnessed the Angels cry for Hussain
And peace be upon Khadija The Great
Who without her wealth Islam foundations would not have been built
Peace be upon Ma'asooma sister of Imam Reda
Who was a scholar and a proof of the right path by her love of Ahlulbayt

Peace be upon every chosen lady who was part of an Ahlulbayt chosen by God
Equal of the Messengers and Prophets of that time
And peace be upon every mother of a holy chosen one by God
Who God out of his wisdom chose them to be a mother of a guiding leader to mankind



interesting :)
 

Viker

Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
What are the most reliable translations in English? What can I trust?
 

MyM

Well-Known Member
Why do you believe in visionary advice?

It is a thread on asking about Islam :)

If you mean visionary as trying to improve the future and have ideas, sure why not. If you mean visionary advice as in a soothsayer etc. That is one thing in Islam that is forbidden. If one goes to them in Islam, their prayers are not accepted for 40 days as well. But seeing a good future down the road in terms of education, nothin wrong with it :)
 

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Premium Member
What are the most reliable translations in English? What can I trust?
Quran the Study probably because they mention different views and possible translations in commentary. However, there is none in my view that you can fully trust. There are fatal mistakes in all translations.
 
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If you mean visionary advice as in a soothsayer etc.

Soothsayers and their ways is treated as the rival religion in Quran. Other religions are not given as much time and verses to debunk them. Not even Judaism or Christianity are given that much time and verses in Quran.
 
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MyM

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Quran the Study probably because they mention different views and possible translations in commentary. However, there is none in my view that you can fully trust. There are fatal mistakes in all translations.[/QUO
What are the most reliable translations in English? What can I trust?


There are many good translators out there. I have read a lot of different wordings but are all so very similar. Just never take a Quran that is in English or any other language without the Arabic beside it. Therefore, one can always ask if they don't understand.

I have about three different types in my home plus the transliteration copy as well.
I prefer
Muhammad Muhsin Khan and Muhammad Taqi-ud-Din al-Hilali.
Both are very very close :)
 

River Sea

Well-Known Member
@Bharat Jhunjhunwala @GoodAttention @paarsurrey
Mulims believe that the Quran is perfect. We believe that Allah created his guidance and sent Mohamad pbuh as a messenger to convey that guidance.
Did people know about Allah when living east of Arabia and learning about Allah's guidance, yet what about did these people ever travel through Kapurthala too and learn this same guidance? What did they learn, and what were the similarities when living in Kapurthala, India? What were their thoughts about Musa, Mohamad, and Allah and the guidance from Allah?

Quran was revealed in arabia. East of arabia...
What language was written in the Quran in east of Arabia?
living at Kapurthala
What were people similar to when Musa was in Kapurthala ever, meaning their interests? Did they rest or work many hours? Was there a drought that affected this, though? Did they listen to Musa speak about how to deal with the drought?
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
If you have any questions about Islam, just ask. But please, no bashing, not ridiculing.
What are the most reliable translations in English? What can I trust?
There are many translations in English:
I suggest done by Sher Ali:
al-Fatihah (The Opening) at IslamAwakened.com or at ~

If you ask which one is the best, the best is which satisfied one's heart and which is best understood from the context of at least 5 verses preceding and 4 verses following, right, please?

Regards
 

River Sea

Well-Known Member
If you have any questions about Islam, just ask. But please, no bashing, not ridiculing.

There are many translations in English:
I suggest done by Sher Ali:
al-Fatihah (The Opening) at IslamAwakened.com or at ~

If you ask which one is the best, the best is which satisfied one's heart and which is best understood from the context of at least 5 verses preceding and 4 verses following, right, please?

Regards

@paarsurrey

I like how they read sing

Do you sing too as you read?

Surah An Noor (chpt 24)- Ayat 35-Palash Noor

If you ask which one is the best, the best is which satisfied one's heart and which is best understood from the context of at least 5 verses preceding and 4 verses following
 

River Sea

Well-Known Member
If you have any questions about Islam, just ask. But please, no bashing, not ridiculing.

It is not singing we name it recitation/quraat, it is miraculous, impressive without any instrument.
I only read it silently, it should be read in a melodious way, aloud but not disturbing others.

Regards

@paarsurrey

So that's what this is called, recitation/quraat. Melodious. And it's not called singing.

What type of scales is in this recitation/quraat melodious? Who chose what scales to have when recitation/quraat melodious?

As you read silently, so not to disturb anyone.
Do you do mental melodious recitation/quraat scales in your mind as you read silently, or do you not do mental melodious scales recitation/quraat in your mind when reading?

If you don't use mental melodious scales for recitation/quraat, what do you do with the words then? Do you use your mental talking sound in your mind when reading silently?
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
@paarsurrey

So that's what this is called, recitation/quraat. Melodious. And it's not called singing.

What type of scales is in this recitation/quraat melodious? Who chose what scales to have when recitation/quraat melodious?

As you read silently, so not to disturb anyone.
Do you do mental melodious recitation/quraat scales in your mind as you read silently, or do you not do mental melodious scales recitation/quraat in your mind when reading?

If you don't use mental melodious scales for recitation/quraat, what do you do with the words then? Do you use your mental talking sound in your mind when reading silently?
Just listen, enjoy and understand Quran, the real purpose is in its understanding.

Regards
 
I am restarting this thread in hopes that those who want to know and learn about Islam can ask. If I am able, I will try my best to answer as truthfully as possible. I wish sincere questions and not hateful questions please. Thank you.
Boy did I way for you for 30 years yes. well I have the following questions for you one by one.

Can the word of allah torah and gospel which allah said is the supreme protector of it get corrupted? there by proving that allah is a failure.
 
I am restarting this thread in hopes that those who want to know and learn about Islam can ask. If I am able, I will try my best to answer as truthfully as possible. I wish sincere questions and not hateful questions please. Thank you.
Can the word of allah torah and gospel which allah said he is a protector of it be corrupted
 

River Sea

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I haven't come across a daycare in a mosque as of yet. Usually the children stay home with the wife or family. Main reason for that is that babies, cry, they can interrupt the concentration of prayers. But children can be taken to mosques. It is advantageous to them if they start at a very early age of going to the mosque. As for the women, it is better praying in their homes.

How did baby sound prevent going inward spiritually compared to the scales they use when... reading Quran?

Just listen, enjoy and understand Quran, the real purpose is in its understanding.

However, males are unable to listen to the sound of a baby because it prevents them from going inward spiritually. How does that sound compare to the sound of scales recitation/quraat melodious of the Quran allows able to go inward?

What type of scales is in this recitation/quraat melodious? Who chose what scales to have when recitation/quraat melodious?

As you read silently, so not to disturb anyone.
Do you do mental melodious recitation/quraat scales in your mind as you read silently, or do you not do mental melodious scales recitation/quraat in your mind when reading?

If you don't use mental melodious scales for recitation/quraat, what do you do with the words then? Do you use your mental talking sound in your mind when reading silently?

It is not singing we name it recitation/quraat, it is miraculous, impressive without any instrument.
I only read it silently, it should be read in a melodious way, aloud but not disturbing others.

So that's what this is called, recitation/quraat. Melodious. And it's not called singing.

How did that come about on planet Earth?

This building mosque is made from what material that protects from baby sound? How does this affect the actual walls and roof? How far does this need to be from all homes that have baby sounds, and how did the homes prevent the baby sounds from traveling through the air and not being able to enter the mosque?

What were the experiences of humans before spiritual buildings were? Was it then families could go to Allah with in them to drink from, as they allow Allah teach them how, as all sounds were, as they in the midst of sounds were able to go to Allah light in them?
 
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