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If your deity asked you to kill your child, would you do it?

If your deity asked you to kill your child would you do it?

  • Yes

    Votes: 8 16.7%

  • No

    Votes: 26 54.2%

  • I do not believe in a deity.

    Votes: 14 29.2%
  • Total voters
    48
use_your_brain

use_your_brain

Active Member
Carlita said:
When it comes to morals, how can something correct not be good? Isnt god the source of both? He can order bad things as long as its correct it is alright?

Its not adding up.

Its like telling my imaginary six year old son, "mommy has to kill you because god says so."

"but ma, dont you love me?"

"I love you but I love god more"

and the mother chops of her son's head with a smile on her face. Raising her child's head to god, saying "her lord, i obeyed you' Now I can live forever in heaen'"

God looks at the mother, "you did well."

To some of us, we see this as horrific that god would congradulate you with heaven by the murder of your child.

I think thats the OPs point.
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Not all good things are correct. The prostitutes, for instance, do the good thing if they did it to gain money to support their families. But prostitution is still the wrong thing, it is not correct religiously no matter the humane reason behind. as well as Robin Hood. Did he do the correct or the good thing?

well, that mom do the correct thing, although it is not good in the eyes of human right.
 
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Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
use_your_brain said:
Not all good things are correct. The prostitutes do the good thing if they did it to gain money to support their families. But prostitution is still the wrong thing, it is not correct religiously no matter the humane reason behind.

well, that mom do the correct thing, although it is not good in the eyes of human right.
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Its neither good or correct, its necessary,

Killing in a war isnt good nor is the death penalty. Neither are correct either.

The former is necessary. The latter barbaric.
 
use_your_brain

use_your_brain

Active Member
Carlita said:
According to those who kill their children, the religion tells me god values obedience more than he does the life he gave the people who he wants to obey.
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If the religions said like that then we supposed to pro religion. no matter we do agree or disagree.
 
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Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
use_your_brain said:
If the religions said like that then we supposed to pro religion. no matter we do agree or disagree.
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Exactly. In this specific case, one religion is asking hypothetically to kill their child. Even if the mother or father disagrees, they still have to do it.

That is what that statement is telling me. God does not value the life he gave.
 
use_your_brain

use_your_brain

Active Member
Carlita said:
Exactly. In this specific case, one religion is asking hypothetically to kill their child. Even if the mother or father disagrees, they still have to do it.

That is what that statement is telling me. God does not value the life he gave.
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And then?
 
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Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
use_your_brain said:
Then you are contradicted with many people. So, which one, among you the true one?
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In some cases, I usually am. If I am doing something correct, its because I find it good for me. I find benefit in it and its morally just. If I am doing something good, it cannot be for obedience without logical reasoning. It cant be for false love. It has to be correct-right. The good feeling has to be correct and order for me to consider it correct, I have to see it as good.

Even doing a math problem comes into this analogy. If Im trying to figure out if two and two is four, I may find it correct but may have a bad feeling about it. I may double check it or move on to where what I find correct correlates with what I know is good. I dont like math. So no matter how many problems I do correct, it doesnt matter if there is no good in it (in my view)

They go hand in hand when it comes to morals.

If god told me to kill my child, his justice may be correct but it doesnt add up as good. So, I would not obey it not for logical reasons (since he is god) but for moral reasons (because his morals contradict his orders).

Even if everything was correct on gods side (morals and logic), asking to kill period crumbles that. If anyone ask someone to kill someone else (taking out soilders here and authority) they dont value life.

Its not good to me. For them, it may be benefitial (excaping gods wrath for example).

Doesnt make sense (not correct) and its not good.

Hence why I disagree. Dont understand the logic behind it being correct.
 
use_your_brain

use_your_brain

Active Member
Carlita said:
In some cases, I usually am. If I am doing something correct, its because I find it good for me. I find benefit in it and its morally just. If I am doing something good, it cannot be for obedience without logical reasoning. It cant be for false love. It has to be correct-right. The good feeling has to be correct and order for me to consider it correct, I have to see it as good.

Even doing a math problem comes into this analogy. If Im trying to figure out if two and two is four, I may find it correct but may have a bad feeling about it. I may double check it or move on to where what I find correct correlates with what I know is good. I dont like math. So no matter how many problems I do correct, it doesnt matter if there is no good in it (in my view)

They go hand in hand when it comes to morals.

If god told me to kill my child, his justice may be correct but it doesnt add up as good. So, I would not obey it not for logical reasons (since he is god) but for moral reasons (because his morals contradict his orders).

Even if everything was correct on gods side (morals and logic), asking to kill period crumbles that. If anyone ask someone to kill someone else (taking out soilders here and authority) they dont value life.

Its not good to me. For them, it may be benefitial (excaping gods wrath for example).

Doesnt make sense (not correct) and its not good.

Hence why I disagree. Dont understand the logic behind it being correct.
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But you would go to hell for not obeying Him. Is that ok?
 
Buttercup

Buttercup

Veteran Member
Corthos said:
That said, -IF HE DID- (and went against everything I know about him in the Gathas), I absolutely would not do as he commanded. Such Gods are petty, and aren't worthy of anyone's time...
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Totally agree. I have four children. I'd bargain to give myself up as a sacrifice instead, if pressed too hard. I'd fight to the death to spare my kids and that's not an exaggeration or bravado speaking. But, first, I'd kick this God's *** so it didn't get to that point. He'd be a puny, little coward if he wanted to kill a child.
 
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