I know it's hurt when i said this is the farvorite type man to sluts and stripers .
do you mesure the life for your own experiences , or commun experiences ?
media is not just about sex ., but indeed the main factor to call adultery and sex .
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do you mesure the life for your own experiences , or commun experiences ?
media is not just about sex ., but indeed the main factor to call adultery and sex .
Controversial ideas, bad habits or sins if you prefer have been intertwined with the media (in whatever format) for thousands of years. That answer your question?
NO that not what i meant . i just post an exemple (1800)
I meant the degree of influence of the media , before 1800 (for exemple) , Now 2015 , is not the same .
NOW is more .
Now we are bombarded with ideas, yes? The age of information? You could argue that we have more access than ever before to ideas and "influences" as you put it.
But how many people over the centuries have watched, hell outright admired a story where a man is trying to destroy another mans life because he was convinced of the rumours that his wife slept with said other man? Hundreds? Thousands? More? I mean it has been playing to people for what? Three or four hundred years now?
How many people have dissected and respected the story where a man descends into hedonism after being fed vanity and hubris? Hundreds? Thousands? More? It has been around since the 1800s
These stories might have lacked the range of the internet when they first entertained the unwashed masses but they weren't exactly swept under the rug and forgotten. They are revered, studied, read and devoured by generations. But suddenly influence from stories presents a problem today, with the world's information at our fingertips 24/7? Why? Because we can form informed opinions easier? We aren't restricted with what ideas our media can give us? Sounds freaking awesome to me!!
If art is supposed to imitate life, why then do people expect it to be all virtue and no vice? Are we that desperate to be ignorant? Aren't we yet comfortable discussing bad things?
This is a back and forth that spans thousands of years. Without any tangible proof for the against side might I add!
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I am friends with every X I've got. They and I speak often. My girlfriend's never cared either. I'm not the jealous type, and my girlfriend's never are either.... I must be weird
I wouldn't say that assertion hurts me at all. I think it's a bit strange.
My mother and father do not attempt to control each other in this manner. My mother is free to go and see whoever she likes, and spend time with whoever she likes (as if my father could stop her). Yet she has not cheated on my father, has not gone to work in a strip club and is altogether a human being with self control and respectability.
And as an English tip: the word '****' is very derogatory. It's like calling Muslims 'ragheads' or calling gay people '****'.
Do I measure my life for my own experiences, or for common experiences? I honestly don't understand what you are trying to say here Godobeyer. Could you please clarify?
Also, no, media is not just about sex. I don't understand what you are saying with the 'main factor' stuff.
The language barrier is hampering our discussion, and we must keep that in mind.
It's seem you don't understand my point .
Having read the conversation, I think it is rather the inverse Godobeyer. SomeRandom understands your point entirely. The problem is that you don't understand SomeRandom's points!
it's will be good , if you briefs our conversations (in points) and simplify , about influence of media , between the deep past and now ?
You aren't understanding that SomeRandom is saying that there has in fact always been a huge amount of exposure to ideas about sexuality, to pornography, and so on, through a variety of media. You also are not understanding that SomeRandom is saying that the accusations you're making against the media of today and how it is special and new as regards the degree to which it influences people's mindsets negatively aren't new either.
ah thanks for help about **** , i meant prostitute
this is trip question :
so whom working in strip club or prostitute are not human being , and they had no respectability and don't have self control ?
as suppose question :
if your mother insist to work such in strip club , would your father agree with that ?
I mean by experience , is his own convictions , so if someone being not cheated , that not mean there is no cheating people ...etc
i mean by "main factor" ; top factor ,
what are accusations that i made against media ?
Thank you for simplifying my rather verbose post. I forget about the language barrier and have a tendency to sprout off all wordy and whatnot. My bad.
Edit: damned autocorrect Hate posting on my phone
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That it has a large influence over people. That it affects us negatively. And at one point you seemed to imply that it may cause people to cheat.
Indeed that true , if someone always watch dirty movies , that may caused in his way of thinking , so may cause him/her to cheat , because ,the media represent it as legal and may it's the real pleasure is to cheat .
that's why may you find some couple don't agree to that partner watch dirty movies . they may considere this as a cheating too .
do deny that some people are just try to imitate what in media ?
First of all adultery is technically legal. I mean it won't get you locked up. ****ty thing to do to be sure. Second must I list all the various stories about cheating spouses throughout the ages? I don't have the time. There's too many to count. And in multiple genres no less.
Shall you explain the influence any esteemed author has on you? I mean I have literary heroes, but I'm still my own person. They don't control me. And self control is kind of thought of as a human trait. If all a person watched was stories about cheating spouses, maybe you'd have a case. But there is real life experiences, other story format interests and personal identity that your supposed influence must break through. Even Huxley admitted that you first need to strip a populace of their human status before you could mould them. And even then that was literal conditioning straight from birth.
Pornography is entirely up to the couple, but I'd wager that one's imagination far surpasses what most directors can conjure up. Even still porno has existed for hundreds if not thousands of years. Care to give me a comparison then of your "very influential information" on a generation by generation basis? I think it would prove interesting.
I don't think I've ever seen cheating being portrayed as a good thing in any story. Cheating always has negative consequences in the stories I've seen, and in real life, is a major taboo. Being accused of cheating (even if innocent) is guaranteed to ruin someone's reputation, especially among youngsters.
Besides, what you're describing is really only likely at all if someone ONLY watches such movies, and isn't exposed to other stuff. Such a person probably shouldn't be in a long-term relationship or marriage to begin with.
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edited : Adultery is not legal in all countries , and in countries which allow it , it's not legal in public areas
are you deny that media influence on people ?
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If you found someone tells that freedom is include cheating , and of course contacting EX , and watching dirty movies ,and walk almost naked or naked in public area , do agree or disagree ?
If your partner found you watches such movies , she will be happy , or shocked ?
if it's would be normal , how about other people (majority) of people , do you think they agree with you ?
Firstly I apologise for saying it's illegal. I inevitably speak from a western perspective.
From my point of view adultery is not illegal. Taboo yes, but not to the point of police interference (short of domestic violence or divorce proceedings obviously.)
I have never denied that people can be influenced by the media they interact with. Merely suggested that such an influence is not the only thing occurring is all.
I have outlined why I think that there's far more to the argument of the whole "media influences us to do insert action here." We are all individuals, we all make our own decisions and we and only we are accountable for our own actions at the end of the day. No one says or forces us to emulate what media "tells us to do."
I have merely said that I consider the supposed influence to be overblown and that there are other factors that may be involved. Like perhaps a self fulfilling prophecy or the fact that such "influences" have ALWAYS existed.
To my point of view you have not provided a single shred of evidence of what this influence actually is and to what extent it actively exists as. Now I'm on my phone until my computer is back up and running properly, as such I am somewhat limited in these posts, may I ask what your excuse is?
Do you understand? I am directly challenging the amount of influence you assert the media has on people.