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If you're liberal, I believe your faith is in doubt

Sand Dancer

Sand Dancer

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Shadow Link said:
There is reason in some cases of how this could be true. Modern liberals(who have hi-jacked the classical term "liberal") are mostly emotionally based people. And "faith" does require more than this, like patience and thinking for instance.
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Liberalism meaning being open to change. Growing, changing and learning are positives.
 
Samantha Rinne

Samantha Rinne

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Rival said:
If you are arrogant, I believe your faith is in doubt.
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But you're arrogantly deciding that they are arrogant. So okay!

As for the OP, you may need to explain this one.

I mean, I can think of a few reasons. But I dunno if any of these is the point.

1. Overall secular view of life. Liberals are more likely than conservatives to reject flat Earth theory, more likely to fully accept global warming narrative, and more likely to get sucked into materialism (liberals tend to live in big cities and feel they need all this stuff, while conservatives tend to be in small towns and live with parents).
2. Jaded outlook. For instance, most of them can't get past the results of the last election. I was watching South Park and they had basically a long time getting past the notion that Trump wasn't a complete buffoon, causing about a season and a half to suck. Actually Trump's first 100 days, he did a huge amount of things.
President Trump's First 100 Days | The White House
And no, they're not all bad. They got rid of many regulations that prevented workers from success. Of course, this brings us to another point.
3. Liberals care more about looking good that results. Alot of liberals don't know that recycling was the chief cause of plastic ending up in the ocean, as it traveled by boat to China until recently. Then there was California's attempt to BAN plastic, which in turn created a fecal waste disaster when CA's homeless couldn't double bag it. This combined with many of their immigrants means Los Angeles now has many diseases even from the Middle Ages. Black Plague. Yes, seriously. Not thinking things through, and only caring about what seems good on paper. The Bible talks of a man not counting the cost, and leaving a tower unfinished. No results, just good ambitions.
4. A subset of this is their obsession with reputation. White guilt is a good example. Why are there immigrants despite that we really can't afford all their insurance and welfare? But we can't be racist! That would be wrong! Somehow. Yet I can reference another South Park episode. This one, the dad tries to hide all former connections with Columbus (because he's suddenly decided Columbus was an evil murderer, when before he had costumes and everything) going so far as to do a DNA test (which he tries to fake by locking lips with a Native American guy, obviously a jab at Elizabeth Warren). Jesus gives a stern warning against being like the Pharisees, wanting to be greeted and praised by others, but having issues of their own.

The point of religion is very much about actual results, not feelings, theoretical goodness, or good reputation. And in the case of Christianity, they get sucked in to an endless treadmill of trying to measure up to social gospel, and miss the message of grace entirely.
 
Terrywoodenpic

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Samantha Rinne said:
But you're arrogantly deciding that they are arrogant. So okay!

As for the OP, you may need to explain this one.

I mean, I can think of a few reasons. But I dunno if any of these is the point.

1. Overall secular view of life. Liberals are more likely than conservatives to reject flat Earth theory, more likely to fully accept global warming narrative, and more likely to get sucked into materialism (liberals tend to live in big cities and feel they need all this stuff, while conservatives tend to be in small towns and live with parents).
2. Jaded outlook. For instance, most of them can't get past the results of the last election. I was watching South Park and they had basically a long time getting past the notion that Trump wasn't a complete buffoon, causing about a season and a half to suck. Actually Trump's first 100 days, he did a huge amount of things.
President Trump's First 100 Days | The White House
And no, they're not all bad. They got rid of many regulations that prevented workers from success. Of course, this brings us to another point.
3. Liberals care more about looking good that results. Alot of liberals don't know that recycling was the chief cause of plastic ending up in the ocean, as it traveled by boat to China until recently. Then there was California's attempt to BAN plastic, which in turn created a fecal waste disaster when CA's homeless couldn't double bag it. This combined with many of their immigrants means Los Angeles now has many diseases even from the Middle Ages. Black Plague. Yes, seriously. Not thinking things through, and only caring about what seems good on paper. The Bible talks of a man not counting the cost, and leaving a tower unfinished. No results, just good ambitions.
4. A subset of this is their obsession with reputation. White guilt is a good example. Why are there immigrants despite that we really can't afford all their insurance and welfare? But we can't be racist! That would be wrong! Somehow. Yet I can reference another South Park episode. This one, the dad tries to hide all former connections with Columbus (because he's suddenly decided Columbus was an evil murderer, when before he had costumes and everything) going so far as to do a DNA test (which he tries to fake by locking lips with a Native American guy, obviously a jab at Elizabeth Warren). Jesus gives a stern warning against being like the Pharisees, wanting to be greeted and praised by others, but having issues of their own.

The point of religion is very much about actual results, not feelings, theoretical goodness, or good reputation. And in the case of Christianity, they get sucked in to an endless treadmill of trying to measure up to social gospel, and miss the message of grace entirely.
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I will only make one point from this long post.

Recycling
Recycling does not cause plastic waste to end up in the oceans.
It is caused by the fact that plastic wast that has been collected is rarely recycled. it has proved cheaper and easier to just dump it.
fortunately China is no longer accepting dumped waste. The USA will have to take care of its own mess.
 
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