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Il Duce Donald shoves Prime Minister out of his way

Koldo

Outstanding Member
It's Trump being Trump.
Boorish, childish, rude.....yes indeedie.
But no one was assaulted.
It's like saying....
"Breaking news! Water is wet!"

Oddly, my description of Trump will be taken by many as defending him.
Go figure.

It was you who brought up the whole 'assault' thing into this topic.
And the fact that it was not an 'assault' doesn't mean that it shouldn't be criticized.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
It was you who brought up the whole 'assault' thing into this topic.
And the fact that it was not an 'assault' doesn't mean that it shouldn't be criticized.
Note that I criticized him for it too.
Are portions of my posts which criticize Trump in an invisible font?
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
Note that I criticized him for it too.
Are portions of my posts which criticize Trump in an invisible font?

That's not exactly the truth.
You criticize him for who he is, but you condone his action simply because he is acting in accordance to who he is.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
That's not exactly the truth.
Yuh huh!
I've criticized him for both policy & behavior.
Those posts truly must be invisible.
You criticize him for who he is, but you condone his action simply because he is acting in accordance to who he is.
I don't condone it at all.
You must be misinterpreting a post.
If you refer to a particular one, I'll address it.

Some confusion is caused by my not regretting my vote because of his bad behavior.
I voted as I did, giving more weight to likely policies the candidates would effect.
So his continued bad behavior simply doesn't warrant buyer's remorse.
From my perspective, the jury is still out on what he will perpetrate/accomplish in office.
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
Yuh huh!
I've criticized him for both policy & behavior.
Those posts truly must be invisible.

I don't condone it at all.
You must be misinterpreting a post.
If you refer to a particular one, I'll address it.

Some confusion is caused by my not regretting my vote because of his bad behavior.
I voted as I did, giving more weight to likely policies the candidates would effect.
So his continued bad behavior simply doesn't warrant buyer's remorse.
From my perspective, the jury is still out on what he will perpetrate/accomplish in office.

Please quote the post you have criticized him for his action without excusing him.
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
Although this is a minor incident, it's quite telling when the POTUS acts quite impolitely with another nation's prime minister and people find such an action not worthy to be criticized.

The great Margaret Thatcher used to do the same. It is the only way to treat some politicians.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Please quote the post you have criticized him for his action without excusing him.
Take my word for it.
But you can search my posts as easily as can I.
(And there are very many.)
Also, I can safely state that I'm the only poster here who describes him as a "petulant" "boor".
Why are you hesitant to criticize him thus for his behavior?

I think it's a problem of differing perceptions & weighting.
I primarily criticize him for governmental policy matters.
But his critics are concerned with his behavior.
And they don't pay much attention to criticism which matters to me.
While I'm less concerned with what matters to them.
 
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Koldo

Outstanding Member
Take my word for it.
But you can search my posts as easily as can I.
(And there are very many.)
Also, I can safely state that I'm the only poster here who describes him as a "petulant" "boor".
Why are you hesitant to criticize him thus for his behavior?

I think it's a problem of differing perceptions & weighting.
I primarily criticize him for governmental policy matters.
But his critics are concerned with his behavior.
And they don't pay much attention to criticism which matters to me.
While I'm less concerned with what matters to them.

I insist. Please do quote the post where you have criticized him for his action ( the one mentioned in the op ) without excusing him. I haven't found it.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I insist. Please do quote the post where you have criticized him for his action ( the one mentioned in the op ) without excusing him. I haven't found it.
Sometimes demands are not met.
But if I run across anything useful, I'll alert you.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
My demand isn't met because it can't be.
Such a post doesn't exist.
You're wrong.
And I'm in the unique position to know (having made the posts).
You, however, are guessing or bluffing because you haven't read all my posts.
Perhaps now you'll claim victory because I won't perform, eh?
This is lame on steroids, but I've no need to prove you wrong.
There are more insteresting conversations going on.
You will believe what you want to believe.
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
You're wrong.
And I'm in the unique position to know (having made the posts).
You, however, are guessing or bluffing because you haven't read all my posts.
Perhaps now you'll claim victory because I won't perform, eh?
This is lame on steroids, but I've no need to prove you wrong.
There are more insteresting conversations going on.
You will believe what you want to believe.

I have read all of your posts on this topic. I have found none that match what I have asked of you.
Once again: Where on this topic have you criticized Trump for his action ( the one shown in the OP ) without excusing him ?
This topic is only 6 pages long so far. It's not hard to go through it looking for your posts.
Why do you refuse to quote it if it does exist ?
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
You have not.
And now you've changed the requirement, narrowing it.
I don't like your game.

The requirement has remained the same from the start.
Perhaps you have misunderstood it ?

I will quote myself:

"You criticize him for who he is, but you condone his action simply because he is acting in accordance to who he is."
"Please quote the post you have criticized him for his action without excusing him."
"Please do quote the post where you have criticized him for his action ( the one mentioned in the op ) without excusing him."
"Where on this topic have you criticized Trump for his action ( the one shown in the OP ) without excusing him ?"

Those quotes come from different posts. They are in the order I have posted them.

I haven't narrowed it down. I have further explained what I mean by 'his action' in the third and fourth quotes.
The choice for 'his action' rather than 'his actions' was deliberate. I have been talking about this specific case that involves Montenegro's Prime Minister. Staying on topic.

Considering this, have you criticized, on this topic, Trump for doing the action shown in the OP video ? If you have, then quote the post.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The requirement has remained the same from the start.
Perhaps you have misunderstood it ?
You can save yourself some time....
I'm not reading entire posts which challenge what I say I believe, what I say I've posted.
You may ask me what I think.
Then believe me or not.
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
You can save yourself some time....
I'm not reading entire posts which challenge what I say I believe, what I say I've posted.
You may ask me what I think.
Then believe me or not.

I suggest you come back at a later time and read that 'entire post'.
This degree of unwillingness, to even read my post, is unfit of you. Perhaps some events have transpired in your life and you are not in the mood to participate on this topic. That would be understandable.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I suggest you come back at a later time and read that 'entire post'.
This degree of unwillingness, to even read my post, is unfit of you. Perhaps some events have transpired in your life and you are not in the mood to participate on this topic. That would be understandable.
I'm busy with tasks IRL, & with other threads.
Many alerts....many responses.
Your line of questioning is uninteresting, & bickering is tedious.
Not worth my time.
Do you have any questions about my views?
 
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Koldo

Outstanding Member
I'm busy with tasks IRL, & with other threads.
Many alerts....many responses.
Your line of questioning is uninteresting, & bickering is tedious.
Not worth my time.
Do you have any questions about my views?

Not until you read my 'entire post' and properly reply to it. Not until then.
 
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