Illogical Conclusions

[Eddi]

So basically you’re just bias. That’s cool, most people are.

Yes, biased towards rejecting claims that are evidently bonkers

 

[Jimmy]

Yes, biased towards rejecting claims that are evidently bonkers

But walking out of a tomb is less troublesome? I still don’t see the logic. Both ideas have no evidence. You’re bias so I get it

 

[Eddi]

But walking out of a tomb is less troublesome? I still don’t see the logic. Both ideas have no evidence. You’re bias so I get it

They believe in Jesus rising due to the culture they are in, Christianity is a social current, a social fact

You do not feature anywhere in their culture

You are not a part of their religious narrative

So you are nothing to them

It's about sociology, not logic

Try looking at it from that angle

 

[Jimmy]

They believe in Jesus rising due to the culture they are in, Christianity is a social current, a social fact

You do not feature anywhere in their culture

You are not a part of their religious narrative

So you are nothing to them

It's about sociology, not logic

Try looking at it from that angle

Well, I really don’t have to. I guess I’m in the same boat as millions of atheists who think the Christian beliefs are troublesome. But unlike some atheists I’m glad Christians think the way they do as it will open up the door for further spiritual development.

 

[Jimmy]

They believe in Jesus rising due to the culture they are in, Christianity is a social current, a social fact

You do not feature anywhere in their culture

You are not a part of their religious narrative

So you are nothing to them

It's about sociology, not logic

Try looking at it from that angle

Yup they’re bias. As most people are to their respective religion.

 

[Eddi]

Yup they’re bias. As most people are to their respective religion.

Of course it is a bias

Everything and everyone is biased to something

That's how humans work

They aquire ideas, internalise them, and then live accordingly

You yourself are biased towards you being the source of all existence

Just as I am biased against grandiose boasts

 

[Jimmy]

Of course it is a bias

Everything and everyone is biased to something

That's how humans work

They aquire ideas, internalise them, and then live accordingly

You yourself are biased towards you being the source of all existence

Just as I am biased against grandiose boasts

Except for the grandiose boast that Jesus was God and walked out of the tomb. I totally understand though. Go placidly

 

[Jimmy]

This thread was about comparing “troubling” ideas. Somehow it turned into this big defense of Christianity and my apparent desire to be worshiped. lol. I’m out.

 

[Eddi]

Except for the grandiose boast that Jesus was God and walked out of the tomb.

Except to Christians Jesus rising is not a mere boast but an actual event and is an integral part of their narrative and world view, and you aren't

And Jesus didn't boast

He proved himself through a catalogue of miracles culminating in rising from the dead

That story is a part of the fabric of Christianity - and you aren't indeed you seem to have trouble with this

Go and do some miracles to add to your shoddy boasts

 

[Eddi]

This thread was about comparing “troubling” ideas. Somehow it turned into this big defense of Christianity and my apparent desire to be worshiped. lol. I’m out.

Then quit snivelling and take control of your thread

 

[Jimmy]

Except to Christians Jesus rising is not a mere boast but an actual event and is an integral part of their narrative and world view, and you aren't

And Jesus didn't boast

He proved himself through a catalogue of miracles culminating in rising from the dead

That story is a part of the fabric of Christianity - and you aren't indeed you seem to have trouble with this

Go and do some miracles to add to your shoddy boasts

You enjoy telling me that I’m not who I say I am don’t you? No, I think it’s you who has trouble with me saying what I say. It’s all good my friend.

 

[Eddi]

This thread was about comparing “troubling” ideas. Somehow it turned into this big defense of Christianity and my apparent desire to be worshiped. lol. I’m out.

You used the word "illogical" in this thread title but have only demonstrated that you don't really know what logic is, in addition to not knowing how (probably most) people came to aquire their religions

You clearly don't understand that

I too am done with this thread

 

[Jimmy]

You used the word "illogical" in this thread title but have only demonstrated that you don't really know what logic is, in addition to not knowing how (probably most) people came to aquire their religions

You clearly don't understand that

I too am done with this thread

As you say

 

[Jimmy]

Then quit snivelling and take control of your thread

But I like to snivel

 

[Heyo]

There has been several people on this website who have said what I think is troublesome but they don’t say that about the Christian, who believes that a man walked out of the tomb 2000 years ago. I fail to see this reasoning. If one is so bold to make such claims then they should be ready to make such claims about Christians.

Regarding the headline, nobody says that you made illogical conclusions. As far as I have read, you make no conclusions at all.

What you have is a totally bonkers premise. Compared to yours, the Christian premise is almost understandable.

 

[Mock Turtle]

A Groundhog Day existence (as your belief seems to be) makes much less sense than any religious belief involving a creator, even if these are also not true.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

There has been several people on this website who have said what I think is troublesome but they don’t say that about the Christian, who believes that a man walked out of the tomb 2000 years ago. I fail to see this reasoning. If one is so bold to make such claims then they should be ready to make such claims about Christians.

What people are telling you is that if you hold an irrational belief alone, it is a delusion, but that if millions of people have a shared irrational belief, that that is different.

I would agree. It's not that your beliefs are more irrational than virgin births and resurrections, it's just that you are the source of your belief, and the others learned theirs from a book or from clergy.

Your belief seems harmless to me if you don't act on it, so I disagree with those who recommend professional help unless you begin making decisions that affect your resources or safety based in that belief, although I can't imagine what that would be.

A Groundhog Day existence (as your belief seems to be) makes much less sense than any religious belief involving a creator, even if these are also not true.

Belief in reincarnation sounds near enough to A Groundhog Day existence metaphysics to me to say that neither makes much more or less sense than the other.

 

[Mock Turtle]

Belief in reincarnation sounds near enough to A Groundhog Day existence metaphysics to me to say that neither makes much more or less sense than the other.

Well I would differ, as to any human existence, including reincarnation, being on the same scale as to what @Jimmy believes. And just so much more unnecessary work involved.

 

[Jimmy]

Regarding the headline, nobody says that you made illogical conclusions. As far as I have read, you make no conclusions at all.

What you have is a totally bonkers premise. Compared to yours, the Christian premise is almost understandable.

The title refers to others

 

[Jimmy]

A Groundhog Day existence (as your belief seems to be) makes much less sense than any religious belief involving a creator, even if these are also not true.

Much less sense than a man rising from the grave? Your reasoning makes no sense,