Frank Merton
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The problem is not money but the "love of money."
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I'm An Atheist Who Follows the Golden Rule
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Frank Merton
Active Member
The Adam and Eve sinning causing suffering to come into the world is about one of the dumbest around. It involves all sorts of magic like trees of good and evil and curses that not only go from generation to generation but also cause suffering to the animal world. It has a talking snake who also gets a special curse, although it seems snakes to just fine in spite of this curse.
The very notion of a God of infinite mercy allowing suffering to become so pervasive for even the shortest time is just so contrary to good mental processes I can call it nothing but the stupidest of the stupid.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
too bad for you....
I assume the abundance of life.....and the indication of design....
we are here to learn all that we can before we die.
we continue...if we can.....if we are allowed to
but with your conviction as is......your death could be a final as your resolve
PackJason
I make up facts.
I was dead for billions of years before I was born and I wasn't inconvenienced in the slightest.
I live my life to its fullest because I don't think we get another chance.
Demonslayer
Well-Known Member
Is that what you call pounding a 15-pack and eating a wheel of cheese while watching the Packers?
PackJason
I make up facts.
Is that what you call pounding a 15-pack and eating a wheel of cheese while watching the Packers?
There's nothing better.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
and currently circumventing the obvious.....
as I posted earlier
PackJason
I make up facts.
What is obvious? I must have missed that.
El Conquistador
Ruler of Zamunda
I'll bet that plugs you up for at least a week.
PackJason
I make up facts.
Jalapenos and Triscuit crackers take care of that.
Grumpuss
Active Member
Yet the Golden Rule was introduced to the world by Jesus (He is King). Sadly, the world was deprived of his blessings until 2,000 years years ago; I always wonder about the poor virtuous souls who lived and died before ever having the honor of knowing our Lord and Savior.
Serenity Now
Member
From the Catholic Catechism:
632 The frequent New Testament affirmations that Jesus was “raised from the dead” presuppose that the crucified one sojourned in the realm of the dead prior to his resurrection.478 This was the first meaning given in the apostolic preaching to Christ’s descent into hell: that Jesus, like all men, experienced death and in his soul joined the others in the realm of the dead. But he descended there as Savior, proclaiming the Good News to the spirits imprisoned there.479
633 Scripture calls the abode of the dead, to which the dead Christ went down, “hell” — Sheol in Hebrew or Hades in Greek—because those who are there are deprived of the vision of God.480 Such is the case for all the dead, whether evil or righteous, while they await the redeemer: which does not mean that their lot is identical, as Jesus shows through the parable of the poor man Lazarus who was received into “Abraham’s bosom”:481 “It is precisely these holy souls, who awaited their Savior in Abraham’s bosom, whom Christ the Lord delivered when he descended into hell.”482 Jesus did not descend into hell to deliver the damned, nor to destroy the hell of damnation, but to free the just who had gone before him.483 (1033)
634 “The gospel was preached even to the dead.”484 The descent into hell brings the Gospel message of salvation to complete fulfillment. This is the last phase of Jesus’ messianic mission, a phase which is condensed in time but vast in its real significance: the spread of Christ’s redemptive work to all men of all times and all places, for all who are saved have been made sharers in the redemption. (605)
635 Christ went down into the depths of death so that “the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live.”485 Jesus, “the Author of life,” by dying destroyed “him who has the power of death, that is, the devil, and [delivered] all those who through fear of death were subject to lifelong bondage.”486 Henceforth the risen Christ holds “the keys of Death and Hades,” so that “at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth.”487
Today a great silence reigns on earth, a great silence and a great stillness. A great silence because the King is asleep. The earth trembled and is still because God has fallen asleep in the flesh and he has raised up all who have slept ever since the world began.... He has gone to search for Adam, our first father, as for a lost sheep. Greatly desiring to visit those who live in darkness and in the shadow of death, he has gone to free from sorrow Adam in his bonds and Eve, captive with him—He who is both their God and the son of Eve....” I am your God, who for your sake have become your son.... I order you, O sleeper, to awake. I did not create you to be a prisoner in hell. Rise from the dead, for I am the life of the dead.”488
PackJason
I make up facts.
You might as well say, "From Green Eggs and Ham."
Serenity Now
Member
Sam I Am did not love you enough to die for your sins.
El Conquistador
Ruler of Zamunda
Green Eggs and Ham is overrated, anyway.
Serenity Now
Member
Meh heard worst.
El Conquistador
Ruler of Zamunda
*worse.
Serenity Now
Member
Grammar police are worse than atheist.
El Conquistador
Ruler of Zamunda
We serve a purpose, though.
Serenity Now
Member
You should put that on your tombstone.