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I'm Starting To Hate Apple

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Even with pro help (my son, who used to be in the phone hacking, maintenance & selling business)
has trouble keeping this old fogie's iphone working. The security features & procedures are so failure
prone & complex that I regularly have a non-working phone. I'm sure that if I were fully trained in all
the intricacies of iphone technology, it would likely work well (except for the unreliable thumb print
feature). But they don't document the product....we're just supposed to automatically know what to do.
(I call this "refrigerator design", ie, you look at it, & all functions are obvious.) But the iphone isn't
designed well enuf to eschew user documentation.

ARGCHGRRGRGGGHHHHH!
 
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Rival

Diex Aie
Staff member
Premium Member
Never owned one. Never will.

Windows is starting to suck too.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Never owned one. Never will.

Windows is starting to suck too.
Windows became really slick with 98 Release 1.
It was great with Release 2.
But thereafter, it became useless for anything other than surfing the internet.
 

beenherebeforeagain

Rogue Animist
Premium Member
Even with pro help (my son, who used to be in the phone hacking, maintenance & selling business)
has trouble keeping this old fogie's iphone working. The security features & procedures are so failure
prone & complex that I regularly have a non-working phone. I'm sure that if I were fully trained in all
the intricacies of iphone technology, it would likely work well (except for the unreliable thumb print
feature). But they don't document the product....we're just supposed to automatically know what to do.
(I call this "refrigerator design", ie, you look at it, & all functions are obvious.) But the iphone isn't
designed well enuf to eschew user documentation.

ARGCHGRRGRGGGHHHHH!
years ago, when I worked at a state agency in the publishing office, we used macs because at the time, the Windows OS simply couldn't handle...in any reliable manner...the necessary graphics and other software. I was certified to operate and repair our equipment after a straightforward set of courses and with adequate documentation. That ended when they started creating computers that were designed to be used by technology-impaired people and had operating systems named after large predators...there was NO way for us to open and service the hardware, and no way for us to enter the OS....

I like the earlier Macs and Apples because they were so simple even I could maintain and upgrade them as we needed.

I have an Iphone now, and my 17-year-old (or so) G4 still functions well...except for not being able to connect to the internet...but I can do photo editing and document creation with no real problems...except that now I have to transfer them to my PC...
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
years ago, when I worked at a state agency in the publishing office, we used macs because at the time, the Windows OS simply couldn't handle...in any reliable manner...the necessary graphics and other software. I was certified to operate and repair our equipment after a straightforward set of courses and with adequate documentation. That ended when they started creating computers that were designed to be used by technology-impaired people and had operating systems named after large predators...there was NO way for us to open and service the hardware, and no way for us to enter the OS....

I like the earlier Macs and Apples because they were so simple even I could maintain and upgrade them as we needed.

I have an Iphone now, and my 17-year-old (or so) G4 still functions well...except for not being able to connect to the internet...but I can do photo editing and document creation with no real problems...except that now I have to transfer them to my PC...
For my business, I'm using an 18 year old DOS box running the MB0S (V6 with V8
menu functions) operating system ported to run as a DOS application under Win98.
It's multi-user, but I find the sneakernet more practical. It's unsupported by any company
anymore, but it's stable, never crashes, & I know it thoroughly.

I've searched for modern software, but it's spendy, & would have a long learning curve.
I'll stay with what works well enuf when it's easy & free.
 

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Some family members are still running Windows Vista, and they refuse to listen to any concerns about hackers. Another recently replaced their XP computer with a Windows 10 computer from Walmart. That's what I call "Refrigerator Level Consumerism."
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Some family members are still running Windows Vista, and they refuse to listen to any concerns about hackers. Another recently replaced their XP computer with a Windows 10 computer from Walmart. That's what I call "Refrigerator Level Consumerism."
I vaguely remember the days of setting DIP switches, IRQ levels, & other functions
which led to my leaving the case off (for frequent access to the innards).
 

SabahTheLoner

Master of the Art of Couch Potato Cuddles
Computers are quite infuriating to fix at times. My dad works for IT and deals with this stuff a lot. Apple is frustrating even for him at times, he often won't update the phone because it messes with older files.

Here's a video for you.

 

Notanumber

A Free Man
I used to use it, but Windows was just easier to maintain.
Not cuz Windows is better....just more familiar to more people.

I use a small Linux Mint computer as a backup device for my Win 7 pro machine but I am finding my Win machine very slow at times. I recently upgraded the RAM to 11GB but it’s not much better than it was before.

You are correct about Windows being friendlier though.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I use a small Linux Mint computer as a backup device for my Win 7 pro machine but I am finding my Win machine very slow at times. I recently upgraded the RAM to 11GB but it’s not much better than it was before.

You are correct about Windows being friendlier though.
Back when computers were much slower, I couldn't run MBOS (my British operating system ) under DOS
or Windows because Microsoft imposed such a tremendous efficiency penalty. Running MBOS native mode
(ie, stand alone operating system), it was blazing fast, even with up to 16 dumb terminal users simultaneously
accessing via time slicing. But I really needed USB access for security & sneakernet functions.

Btw....
NERD!
 

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
How many of you are using Linux?
I do. I'm running Centos with the Gnome 3 windowing system. Normally I run Ubuntu and prefer dpkg to rpm. Both of them are overly complex, however I have better luck with apt-get than with yum. DNF seems to run better than Yum does, however neither one is very intuitive and its tortuous to learn how to do anything beyond an update. The man pages are chicken scratch, and to configure apt you're supposed to learn backus naur forms! Making a package for either is like learning voodoo.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
All 3 of my WinDoze 10 Pro machines work perfectly. It does help if you sell your soul to Bill Gates though, admittedly.


It wouldn't even occur to be to buy an Apple product, especially after working with Apple as a licensed dealer. Ugh.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Oh, come now, @Revoltingest you should know about this fine series written just for people like you. And you can thank technology for creating a wonderful niche market or maybe not so niche a market since according to wikipedia there are more than 2500 titles

9781119137771_p0_v2_s550x406.jpg


Here's another for you:

for-dummies-elvis.jpg
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Oh, come now, @Revoltingest you should know about this fine series written just for people like you. And you can thank technology for creating a wonderful niche market or maybe not so niche a market since according to wikipedia there are more than 2500 titles

9781119137771_p0_v2_s550x406.jpg


Here's another for you:

for-dummies-elvis.jpg
I need one!
The iphone one...not the Elvis one.
Are you sure it isn't too advanced for me?
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
Windows is starting to suck too.
To be fair, it always did and I've been using it since Windows 3.1. If not for the fact that professional software and games used to require Windows for PC, I would have used it's space on my SDD for something better.
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
How many of you are using Linux?
I mostly use it, currently Mint or Android(sigh). I do have to boot VMWare or reboot if I have to use Office or some other professional software that's not yet available natively on Linux.
 
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