I'm very late with this but how did Biden manage to win the Dem nomination?

[Twilight Hue]

Please let us agree education, treating drug addiction as a public health crisis rather than treating drug addiction as a crime, and a restorative justice system emphasizing the rehabilitation of criminally convicted offenders might result in less crime like how there is less crime in Norway than in the U.S.

Only one way to find out.

The next several years.

 

[Vinayaka]

i tend to disagree

i found two very dynamic, intelligent, thoughtful, kind people who ran in the last election, but sadly had no chance of winning in a country overrun with stone age mentalities

For sure. I've often felt that way here too, but I was speaking in generalisations, as I thought that addressed the OP question. It's almost as if you're under 60 it eliminates all chances.

 

[Jeremiah Ames]

For sure. I've often felt that way here too, but I was speaking in generalisations, as I thought that addressed the OP question. It's almost as if you're under 60 it eliminates all chances.

I understand now

sorry about my misunderstanding

 

[Jose Fly]

I'm obviously very late given that he turned out to be President but one thing that hasn't made sense to me was how Biden won the Dem nomination. No offence to anyone of this demographic but he's an old, some may call boring, white guy running against others in the Dem nomination field who would more likely appeal better to most Dems such as women and people of color who were also younger than him and more exciting plus, with some of the gaffes he made either in debates or in other places where he did public speaking it showed a decline in his cognition and also he's more of a moderate while the Dem party seems to be going more liberal, so all put together, it just doesn't make any sense that he won the Dem nomination. Another example is with the whole George Floyd situation and how anti-white America became after that, even more than it was before that, and with the Dems practically labelling themselves as the "social justice party" having an old, white guy as their face, as their highest representative, just doesn't make any sense. Surely there was some rigging involved.

My recollection is that Warren and Sanders both stayed in the race long enough to split the younger progressive vote, which allowed Boomers and older GenX'ers to coalesce behind Biden after the other more moderate candidates withdrew. I think had Sanders or Warren withdrawn earlier, the other very well could have gotten the nomination.

Biden winning also showed that there are still enough centrist/moderate Boomers and GenX'ers in the Democrat Party to affect election outcomes.

 

[Revoltingest]

I'm confident a Sanders/Warren ticket would have soundly defeated Trump/Pence to the point of where even an orangutan-like idiot such as Donald Trump could not have claimed election fraud. With a Sanders/Warren Presidency, we'd be well on our way to Medicare-for-all, universal preschool, student debt forgiveness, tuition-free college, and significant investments in renewable energy as well as infrastructure improvements.

Here's what one thinks of you people who compare him to Trump.

 

[Revoltingest]

Please let us agree education, treating drug addiction as a public health crisis rather than treating drug addiction as a crime, and a restorative justice system emphasizing the rehabilitation of criminally convicted offenders might result in less crime like how there is less crime in Norway (edit)*compared to crime rate and violent crimes of the U.S.*

Hah!
Biden's record is the opposite of that approach.
That's why I favored Yang for Prez.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I'm confident a Sanders/Warren ticket would have soundly defeated Trump/Pence to the point of where even an orangutan-like idiot such as Donald Trump could not have claimed election fraud. With a Sanders/Warren Presidency, we'd be well on our way to Medicare-for-all, universal preschool, student debt forgiveness, tuition-free college, and significant investments in renewable energy as well as infrastructure improvements.

And I suppose the wealthy were going to totally pay for it all.

 

[Suave]

Hah!
Biden's record is the opposite of that approach.
That's why I favored Yang for Prez.

I agree with Yang's Universal Basic Income plan, I figure this widely casted social safety net being without means testing and requiring less government intrusiveness might be overall more cost effective to administer than the many various targeted welfare programs administered by the status quo welfare state to those with particular needs.

 

[Jos]

Conservative Democrats are really popular in the US. Bernie Sanders had a big campaign as usual, but he was too progressive for the US at this time. Conservatives, the alt-right, and conservative Democrats are all usually popular candidates in the US, especially if they're male as a lot of conservatives for some reason, don't want female leaders in high places.

That doesn't sense to me given that America elected Obama twice, who was more liberal than Joe, and in fact very liberal overall.

 

[Jos]

Democrats listened to Republicans that Sanders couldn't win, unfortunately for those poor Republicans they listened so that they could win.

Sanders could have won though. He was more likeable than Trump and his platform, as liberal as it was, seemed like it would be a lot more palatable than Trump's.

 

[Jos]

And I know people like the AOC and her supporters are very vocal, but they're the vocal minority I think

America seems headed towards a very liberal state though. I wouldn't be surprised if America becomes socialist or something akin to a socialist nation within the next 20 - 30 years.

 

[Jos]

Often it's the best of a poor lot. If nobody with superiour skills runs, you settle on the best of the rest. US politics hasn't had a truly dynamic person come along for awhile.

It seems like presidents are selected rather than elected.

 

[Jos]

he was not my first choice for the nomination, but when I got over my disappointment, I realized there was nothing bad or wrong with him
i have no problem with abortion, which is probably the only reason some people couldn’t vote for him

he is not notorious, nor remarkable

easy for a wide range of people to get behind him

he could have won by vastly larger amounts, if it wasn’t for the fact so many sold their Christian souls to vote for the other guy

imo

OK but a large percentage of the Dem party are women and people of color. You're seriously telling me that they would rather an old, boring, white man represent them rather than a younger, more exciting black woman? That makes no sense.

 

[Jos]

Being old & white is a fine condition to find oneself in.

Not these days apparently lol

But Biden also has a record of weakness on civil liberties,
particularly with his 1994 Crime Bill.
Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act - Wikipedia

Exactly! So why would people of color vote for such a guy? It doesn't add up

 

[Jos]

All elections are controlled. Biden is put in to do a job. He's a weak man and easily controlled.

Yeah it seems presidents are selected rather than elected.

 

[Jos]

I am so disappointed with how the Democratic party establishment ganged up against our progressive leader Bernie Sanders. As much as I love Senator Elizabeth Warren's progressiveness, I am still upset at her for not teaming up with Bernie Sanders in order to counter act Democratic party centralists Pete Buttigieg and Amy Klobuchar dropping out of the Democratic Presidential nominee race so they could get their supporters to join forces with Biden.

I think it was set in stone for him to be nominated long ahead of time and it makes sense too given that he would basically finish up what Obama started.

 

[Left Coast]

Sanders could have won though. He was more likeable than Trump and his platform, as liberal as it was, seemed like it would be a lot more palatable than Trump's.

Sanders didn't have the support of black voters the way Biden did in the primary. That's always been a weak spot for him; it was in 2016 as well. Younger people, who tend to support him more, are also less consistent voters, and I don't think they came out as strongly in the primary as he'd hoped.

 

[Jos]

I think because Biden positioned himself as a moderate and most democratic voters felt it would be easier for a democratic moderate to defeat Trump. Plus the name recognition and connection to Obama.

It's that connection to Obama that makes me think the nomination was set in stone even before he ran.

 

[Jos]

Trump was the alternative, so leadership felt they could choose an unpopular candidate. Loyalty to Biden made him the nominee. He did time as VP, as a senator, as a long term party supporter. The party made its point that supporting the party would pay off and to support the party decisions. Message: play the game.

So it was rigged for him to be the nominee?

 

[Jos]

That's what I think.

It's intended for Harris to be installed as a shadow president.

I don't see how Biden would have ever picked Harris as a VP running mate.

I think he was told to have her.

Yeah I think he was told to have her as well. Especially to drum up support among POC.