I'm very late with this but how did Biden manage to win the Dem nomination?

[robocop (actually)]

For what it's worth:

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This test seems to be compared to the rest of the world.

That test makes no sense. With all of those people you'd expect them centered in the middle.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

That test makes no sense. With all of those people you'd expect them centered in the middle.

It may make no sense, but the test is available to try yourself, Political Compass test, and when RF did a year ago, we got spread more across the spectrum. So the only thing to debate I think, is whether they placed the markers wrong for these politicians.

 

[robocop (actually)]

It may make no sense, but the test is available to try yourself, Political Compass test, and when RF did a year ago, we got spread more across the spectrum. So the only thing to debate I think, is whether they placed the markers wrong for these politicians.

I think they placed the markers wrong for the politicians.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

I think they placed the markers wrong for the politicians.

Fair enough. You may be right. In fact, I'm prone to believe you at least sightly are.

 

[Friend of Mara]

Trump said Joe Biden was not a socialist but lied that he was in bed with them. If Trump said Bernie Sanders was a full on socialist that would have been much worse.

Bernie already calls himself a socialist? What difference would it make for Trump to call him a socialist? He already has.

 

[robocop (actually)]

Bernie already calls himself a socialist? What difference would it make for Trump to call him a socialist? He already has.

Trump would rub it in.

 

[Friend of Mara]

Trump would rub it in.

Better than him rubbing it out I guess.

 

[Jos]

Most Dems probably aren't woke sjws.

You sure? They sure seem like it or maybe that's just the media showing the loudest ones who happen to be woke sjws.

 

[Jos]

Joe Biden was halfway left at ontheissues.org. Bernie Sanders was completely left. That's a lot of lost votes!

Well halfway left is part of the path to socialism

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

You sure? They sure seem like it or maybe that's just the media showing the loudest ones who happen to be woke sjws.

I'm thinking it's the vocal minority and also biased, skewed, somewhat toxic, uninformative, stale media coverage by the media.

 

[Jos]

There are a whole lotta white people in Ameristan.

No kidding!

 

[Jos]

I think Trump thought he would run against Biden, even if he was optimistic for a different outcome. He used the first impeachment trial to air retaliating statements against Hunter Biden, and also coined the term "Sleepy Joe" for Biden. Perhaps because he was thinking he'd rather run against Bernie, whether because he liked Bernie better, or he thought he had a better chance against him.

Well as the president of the US, that wouldn't be surprising that he knew he would run against Biden given that he sees and hears all that happens in the US.

 

[robocop (actually)]

Well halfway left is part of the path to socialism

Then Trump is halfway to fascism.

 

[Jos]

I see the term "woke" a bit differently than other people. I consider myself a progressive, not far left or communist, maybe semi-woke but not all the way, more left than Biden and Kamala, maybe about like Bernie. I see myself as more left than most in the US, but not necessarily more left than some of this forum or the younger crowd on the internet. I see myself as possibly being more woke than a lot of older Democrats, who aren't on RF that is.

What is an exact definition of woke?

 

[Jos]

Quite complex, as each state independently run their own elections and farm out significant administration/operational duties to counties.

What is the actual "rigging" you think has happened?

Didn't know that, I must admit that throws a bit of cold water on my rigging theory. The only other question is if those things can be hacked...

 

[Jos]

He's easy to manipulate?

Maybe Idk. I think every politician is easy to manipulate with things such as money, favors, blackmail etc. They're all puppets being pulled by different strings

 

[Jos]

I'm thinking it's the vocal minority and also biased, skewed, somewhat toxic, uninformative, stale media coverage by the media.

Yeah probs

 

[Jos]

Then Trump is halfway to fascism.

On the evidence of Jan. 6, I wouldn't reject that claim

 

[Brickjectivity]

I mean...whatever makes you feel better. The dude never once won the popular vote in the US and got clapped by a semi-functioning ice cream addict.

He was universally considered a crude barbarian, incapable of couth. That's why nobody could believe it when he got the nomination. He used nasty insults and broke formal debate rules, lied constantly and obviously. He couldn't construct a normal sentence. He expressed ignorance about the danger of nuclear missiles. His open provocations and dum-cluck answers were for his supporters some kind of refreshing change from the inaction they perceived from other candidates. Then he won the election, and everybody was like "He won?" People.

 

[Friend of Mara]

He was universally considered a crude barbarian, incapable of couth. That's why nobody could believe it when he got the nomination. He used nasty insults and broke formal debate rules, lied constantly and obviously. He couldn't construct a normal sentence. He expressed ignorance about the danger of nuclear missiles. His open provocations and dum-cluck answers were for his supporters some kind of refreshing change from the inaction they perceived from other candidates. Then he won the election, and everybody was like "He won?" People.

Lets be fair and state the obvious as well. Republicans would have had 1 president in the last 30 years if the EC didn't give them a handicap. Also voter suppression and a "vote red" mentality of those states regardless of the candidate. What scares me more is the personality cult that he cultivated. The US hasn't progressed as far as most of us prior to Trump would have liked to believe.