metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Such as an estimated 40% of our crops being picked by the undocumented here in the States.
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Immigration National Emergency
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amorphous_constellation
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Immigrants into this country, working manual labor, will often be great workers, but I think that our american business majors and temp agencies are often taking advantage of the immigrants. The other side of the coin, is that every american parent wants to send their kids to college, and likely sees manual labor as being beneath the dignity of their offspring.
We in america, do not instill blue-collar work with any social value. This is a cultural issue - we see college as the only route to success. This mentality probably stems from multiple foundations, though one that I think I might broadly identify, is that all pop-media heavily promotes wealthy styles, via main characters in movies and music stars etc. Another foundation might involve the collapse of religion in western society, which conversely might be something that a lot of working class immigrants try to hold onto
amorphous_constellation
Well-Known Member
I think the right 'tool for the job' is coherent social philosophy, and it involves complicated social questions. That the military could now get involved, causes concern, as it may have the potential of being a poorly used and blunt tool, if that's what you're asking. If those doing the deporting action have an abusive mentality, then I can see that different potential events might cause serious criticism of their actions. I can see a potential for more possible division in country. I have trouble envisioning what might heal this, if division gets worse
I think that broadly, all of this is happening because the american people are divided in their goals, if any of them have coherent goals, and they don't have that many objective ideas about what work needs to be done, or what social value it should have. Modern technology also plays a role, as I believe that perhaps more work could be automated than currently is being automated - though there are questions about whether we should pursue much more of that at all, or if the introduction of it should be made much slower
There are questions about who we are. Obviously, my white ancestors made many errors and caused misery for people when they settled different places. I can see this current issue, and the actions that may follow, as causing more critical views to be generated on that. That is to say, that race politics may enter the picture even more. I think that God likely intended the peoples of the earth to live in some kind of a harmony, and complications around immigration, anywhere on the world, damage that idea. There is also the issue that the whole american project is superimposed on native american territory
A lot of people who come here, though, might be escaping places where there is gang rule. It is potentially tragic if they have to go back there, but I think we have to ask more serious questions about why that might be happening in those places. Maybe they need more monetary power, (in the form of necessary inflation?) to power government mechanisms that will fight corruption and gangs? And this could build more infrastructure in those places as well. But at the same time, my intuition tells me that some of the countries south of the border are still very naturally beautiful, and that adding more pieces of powerful economic infrastructure may damage that
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SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Ah, so that's what we're calling it now.
Nice euphemism.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
That is the bull in a China shop. To catch and deport illegals.
McBell
Unbound
What happened?
You were all bull in a China shop without a single f*** given when stating your opinion at first, but the second someone starts asking for details you clam right up
BrokenBread
Member
Can we have Deportation Poster Boy to go along with the effort to keep the troops inspired ?
So many to choose from but this cretin is definitely in the running.
Notice how the reporter does his best to soft soap the horror of the crime by only stating the child was "under 17" but refusing to give the actual age of the child.
Victim could 12 years or they could 7 ?
by Matthew Saffer
Tue, November 19th 2024 at 10:09 AM
On November 16, Utica Police arrested 46-year-old Cesar Mena-Martinez for allegedly having sexual contact with a female less than 17 years old. (Photo by Utica Police Department)
So many to choose from but this cretin is definitely in the running.
Notice how the reporter does his best to soft soap the horror of the crime by only stating the child was "under 17" but refusing to give the actual age of the child.
Victim could 12 years or they could 7 ?
Utica man arrested for having inappropriate contact with a girl under 17-years-old
by Matthew Saffer
Tue, November 19th 2024 at 10:09 AM
On November 16, Utica Police arrested 46-year-old Cesar Mena-Martinez for allegedly having sexual contact with a female less than 17 years old. (Photo by Utica Police Department)
McBell
Unbound
Should probably find out if he is here legally or not BEFORE making him a poster boy for deporting illegals...
Wrote the Canadian living in a glass house.
Hey-hey, hey-ho, illegal immigrants gonna go.-President-elect Donald Trump confirmed on Truth Social early Monday morning that his incoming administration will declare a national emergency and use military resources to implement a mass deportation of illegal immigrants. The confirmation was made in response to an earlier post by Tom Fitton, journalist and president of Judicial Watch.
“GOOD NEWS: Reports are the incoming @RealDonaldTrump administration prepared to declare a national emergency and will use military assets to reverse the Biden invasion through a mass deportation program,” Fitton posted. --
Trump confirms plans to declare national emergency to implement mass deportation program - Washington Examiner
President-elect Donald Trump confirmed that he plans to declare a national emergency to use military resources to deport illegal immigrants.www.washingtonexaminer.com
Military assets?
Trump's your daddy now, baby.
BrokenBread
Member
His citizenship status or lack of one will be made public very shortly
However this is not my first illegal immigrant crime rodeo, and probably not yours concerning the telltale signs the democrat media gives off in trying to soft soap and cover for the crime of illegals.
It was just not a winning issue for them, and it was at the top of the list of what Americans voted to fix.
Tell me why you think the actual age of the child rape victim was not given and only broadly mentioned as being "less than 17" ?
That is clue #1 as to his status .
Clue number two is when they refuse to tell you anything about where he resides .
"HE WAS LOCATED " oh really ?
They try so hard , makes me want to puke.
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UTICA, N.Y. -- According to the Oneida County Sheriff's Office, a man from Utica has been charged with rape.
The Utica Police Department received a complaint on Nov. 14 that an adult male allegedly subjected a female child to sexual contact.
Officials said that 46-year-old Cesar Mena-Martinez was located and arrested two days later.
He was taken to Oneida County Jail on $20,000 cash bail.
An order of protection was issued on behalf of the child.
BrokenBread
Member
Personally I say send them walking at the same location they got here .
Point them south at the border and tell them get to steppin & don't come back.
Point them south at the border and tell them get to steppin & don't come back.
big boi.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Nope . That's just you like usual putting words into people's mouths that they never said.
amorphous_constellation
Well-Known Member
well I want to know exactly what america's role is around the Darien Gap. If many are coming through there, just to get here, on the basis of just trying to get low-wage work, to 'benefit our economy,' while enduring tragedy there, and a very humble life here, then it is not with a sense of castigation that I view these people. I view the situation more strictly as impersonal social instability
BrokenBread, I don't believe that they have more or less criminality than we do, and so I think that this poster idea may inspire overboard conduct. As well, I fear that the younger generation in america, being those that typically compose soldiers, might be getting politically less balanced.
T minus 62 days until President Trump takes office. Just a friendly reminder! Enjoy!
BrokenBread
Member
Your are obviously uninformed of the proposed categories of deportees and the priority each category places them in.
Priority number 1# will be known criminals, gang members, & criminal drug /human trafficking cartel members.
Why would anyone be opposed to that ?
Can you name any nation in the world who accepts known foreign criminals ?
Why not ?
amorphous_constellation
Well-Known Member
To that statement, I can't be opposed, however, I'm having trouble envisioning this being a clean and easy process. As well, they likely wish to expand the program to those who want nothing to do with those who you named. If you read any of my posts at all on this forum, you should quickly understand that I find most issues to have a rather dense and complicated nature. Every political decision creates multiple fork paths in the future
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McBell
Unbound
You came into this thread like a wrecking ball, then as soon as you were asked for some details, you turned into one of those soft little puffy balls we throw for cats.
Let us try it again then:
Are you saying that not only it is ok to turn the military loose on illegals, it is just fine to have multiple standards in dealing with them?
Or is it more like the multiple standards are expected?
What is stance on the collateral damage?
Or do you perhaps take the egg breaking chef approach?
Are you gonna address them or continue to run tail tucked?