"In God We Trust"

[Skwim]

Does this really have any place on our currency?

WHY?

Frankly, if nothing else it smacks of religious insecurity. "I need to be reminded of my god and my relationship with him all the time, even when I'm paying for cigarettes, Coors, and condoms."

Outside of finding it exceedingly inappropriate---making a statement of religious faith on secular governmental property---it's just plain dumb. If I believed in a supreme being I'd feel he deserves better representation than being placed on objects dropped in vending machine slots or used to snort cocaine with. It's little better than having In God We Trust emblazoned on the lids of garbage cans or toilet seats.

So, I'm looking for a persuasive argument of why "In God We Trust" should remain on our currency.

What ya got?

 

[Laika]

If I remember correctly "In God we trust" was put on the US Dollar in the 1950's as part of efforts to characterise the Cold War as between devout and free Americans and Godless Totalitarian Commies. the same goes for including "one nation under god" in the US presidents oath of allegience.

 

[Covellite]

We don't have such statements in Europe
So it is much more convenient to buy cigarettes, pay for porn, etc

 

[Twilight Hue]

Does this really have any place on our currency?

WHY?

Frankly, if nothing else it smacks of religious insecurity. "I need to be reminded of my god and my relationship with him all the time, even when I'm paying for cigarettes, Coors, and condoms."

Outside of finding it exceedingly inappropriate---making a statement of religious faith on secular governmental property---it's just plain dumb. If I believed in a supreme being I'd feel he deserves better representation than being placed on objects dropped in vending machine slots or used to snort cocaine with. It's little better than having In God We Trust emblazoned on the lids of garbage cans or toilet seats.

So, I'm looking for a persuasive argument of why "In God We Trust" should remain on our currency.

What ya got?

I'm guessing the godless commie threat still pervades. =0)

 

[Skwim]

If I remember correctly "In God we trust" was put on the US Dollar in the 1950's as part of efforts to characterise the Cold War as between devout and free Americans and Godless Totalitarian Commies. the same goes for including "one nation under god" in the US presidents oath of allegience.

I believe you're right.

We don't have such statements in Europe
So it is much more convenient to buy cigarettes, pay for porn, etc

Hey, it doesn't stop Americans at all. I think they'd pay with gold plated crosses if necessary.

 

[Nietzsche]

If I remember correctly "In God we trust" was put on the US Dollar in the 1950's as part of efforts to characterise the Cold War as between devout and free Americans and Godless Totalitarian Commies. the same goes for including "one nation under god" in the US presidents oath of allegience.

I believe you're right.

As with most historical events, it's more complicated than that, but it's close enough.

Though I don't see the problem with it myself. I mean, it's good advice everyone should follow, really.

Why wouldn't you trust Me?

 

[Revoltingest]

If I remember correctly "In God we trust" was put on the US Dollar in the 1950's as part of efforts to characterise the Cold War as between devout and free Americans and Godless Totalitarian Commies. the same goes for including "one nation under god" in the US presidents oath of allegience.

It goes farther back than that......
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_God_we_trust#History

Our original motto (which I prefer) is found on the bottom of the Fugio cent.....

 

[Quintessence]

If putting that phrase on our currency speaks of "religious insecurity" then it's only fair to presume that those who are upset with it are also suffering from some sort of insecurity.

 

[Revoltingest]

If putting that phrase on our currency speaks of "religious insecurity" then it's only fair to presume that those who are upset with it are also suffering from some sort of insecurity.

There's often the claim that "God" doesn't refer to any particular monotheistic religion, so it's OK.
I've a test.....
Replace "God" with "Allah", & see if they still feel the same.

 

[Skwim]

If putting that phrase on our currency speaks of "religious insecurity" then it's only fair to presume that those who are upset with it are also suffering from some sort of insecurity.

Quite an odd presumption, but it might be interesting to see your reasoning. Care to share?

 

[Skwim]

There's often the claim that "God" doesn't refer to any particular monotheistic religion, so it's OK.

And neither is there a reference to any particular monotheistic religion in the First Amendment.(But we all know who it is, don't we.)

I've a test.....
Replace "God" with "Allah", & see if they still feel the same.

Would be interesting. So it would.

 

[Curious George]

Does this really have any place on our currency?

WHY?

Frankly, if nothing else it smacks of religious insecurity. "I need to be reminded of my god and my relationship with him all the time, even when I'm paying for cigarettes, Coors, and condoms."

Outside of finding it exceedingly inappropriate---making a statement of religious faith on secular governmental property---it's just plain dumb. If I believed in a supreme being I'd feel he deserves better representation than being placed on objects dropped in vending machine slots or used to snort cocaine with. It's little better than having In God We Trust emblazoned on the lids of garbage cans or toilet seats.

So, I'm looking for a persuasive argument of why "In God We Trust" should remain on our currency.

What ya got?

My only persuasive argument to keeping this quote on our money is apathy. It really doesn't matter to me and I have not heard any persuasive arguments on why it should.

 

[Skwim]

My only persuasive argument to keeping this quote on our money is apathy.

I can see it as a reason, but not an argument.

 

[Revoltingest]

And neither is there a reference to any particular monotheistic religion in the First Amendment.(But we all know who it is, don't we.)

But it doesn't establish a religion!
It could be any vastly different religion.....Church Of England, Catholicism, Word Of God.

Would be interesting. So it would.

But "Allah" is not the Xian word for God!

I sure use a lot of exclamation marks.

 

[columbus]

Our original motto (which I prefer) is found on the bottom of the Fugio cent.....

This "Mind Your Business" likely meant something different to Jefferson and Washington and the other slave owners than it did to most others, like Ms. Hemming, eh?
Tom

 

[columbus]

But it doesn't establish a religion!
It could be any vastly different religion.....Church Of England, Catholicism, Word Of God.

It definitely wasn't Catholicism. We still worshipped statues and prayed to the Pope.
Tom

 

[Revoltingest]

This "Mind Your Business" likely meant something different to Jefferson and Washington and the other slave owners than it did to most others, like Ms. Hemming, eh?
Tom

Whatever it meant to each, I really like the sound of it.
We're a country which should really learn to mind its own business less than that of others.
And it is both historical & secular.

 

[fantome profane]

There's often the claim that "God" doesn't refer to any particular monotheistic religion, so it's OK.
I've a test.....
Replace "God" with "Allah", & see if they still feel the same.

Good question. But also why should the government endorse monotheism over other theistic concepts. Why not "In The Gods We Place Our Trust".

 

[Thana]

Does this really have any place on our currency?

WHY?

Frankly, if nothing else it smacks of religious insecurity. "I need to be reminded of my god and my relationship with him all the time, even when I'm paying for cigarettes, Coors, and condoms."

Outside of finding it exceedingly inappropriate---making a statement of religious faith on secular governmental property---it's just plain dumb. If I believed in a supreme being I'd feel he deserves better representation than being placed on objects dropped in vending machine slots or used to snort cocaine with. It's little better than having In God We Trust emblazoned on the lids of garbage cans or toilet seats.

So, I'm looking for a persuasive argument of why "In God We Trust" should remain on our currency.

What ya got?

I doubt God appreciates His name being on money any more than you do.

But honestly.. aren't there more, I don't know, constructive things to put your focus on? This is just.. way too petty.

 

[Revoltingest]

Good question. But also why should the government endorse monotheism over other theistic concepts. Why not "In The Gods We Place Our Trust".

I don't think they should address any theistic concept.