"incarnation of God" according to allah?

[Madhuri]

Sometimes Muslims prefer not to go deep on some issues which they might not be fully aware of, so they prefer to give you the relevant verse which Allah has mentioned this issue or that to find out for yourself, and they might quote a well versed scholar in the religion who can fully cover the question.

If you are still wondering, why would God choose not to appear in this life, i'll mention for you a story which happened long time a go between Allah and the famous prophet of Allah, Moses.

[143] When Musa came to the place appointed by Us, and his Lord addressed him, he said: "O my Lord! show (Thyself) to me, that I may look upon Thee." Allah said: "By no means canst thou see Me (direct); but look upon the mount; if it abide in its place, then shalt thou see Me." When his Lord manifested His glory on the Mount, He made it as dust, and Musa fell down in a swoon. When he recovered his senses he said: "Glory be to Thee! to Thee I turn in repentance, and I am the first to believe." (Quran 7:143)

Moses didn't know that God is so great that we can't handle seeing him with our current limited senses.

You would be able to imagine what i'm saying when i give you this example, you know that we are on earth, then we have other planets, then we have the universe, then there are other universes, and there is something bigger than that which we are still not aware of, imagine that God is greater than all that, how can we see him with our simple eyes? we can't.

That's why Allah told us that the believers will be able to see him in the hereafter because the rules are different in the hereafter as my brother Cordoba said before me. Allah will give us the ability to see him, and talk to him directly.

Thank you Tashan, an excellent explanation and for the first time I understand the Muslim perspective on this concept. It is not so different from the Hindu idea, where in His Universal form is difficult to behold, so He appears to man covered by maya so that we are not overwhelmed.

I am very grateful for the time you have taken to answer me. I am satisfied

 

[SLAMH]

Firstly, I want to apologise for taking so long to reply. Life has been busy.

I understand what you are saying about logic. I think we can both agree on what logic is. It is not important to debate over this. I was really trying ot point out that without an explanation of what you or others say, I cannot be expected to automatically understand the concepts presented. And this is for the very reason you explained, that for you to undrstand a Hindu idea I would have to do more than just state the belief or concept, I would have to go in depth and try to make you understand. Do you see what I am saying?

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I can clearly see your point, I think you are right in what you said about understanding the concepts and items presented in this thread and I agree with it. I meant that attributing lack of understanding to logic gives a limited space for the Opponent to answer or elaborate on what he/she said. Beyond that, I can see my fault for not considering that you are not familiar with the ideas presented here.
Anyway, I appreciate that you elaborated on the concepts of Hindu and you gave a good explanation for it. (well done).
I'd love to learn more about Hindu and I really need to understand the basis of the Hinduism.
so, Can you tell me where can I commence a new thread to gain the knowledge about Hinduism?

And sorry for bothering you.

 

[K.Venugopal]

I'd love to learn more about Hindu and I really need to understand the basis of the Hinduism.

This is simply great. I believe all achievements of man are the common heritage of mankind and much has been man's achievements through various religions. Please correct me if I am wrong, by my impression has been that Muslims are not interested in any religion but Islam and if they study any religion at all it is to find fault in them and unfairly compare them with Islam. Therefore your desire to learn about Hinduism is appreciated. The Vedas, source of much of Hinduism, declare "Let noble thoughts come to us from all sides". I hope you discover the noble thoughts of Hinduism.

 

[fatima_bintu_islam]

Zoyahat , why do you dislike debates so much? I asked you last time why do you want it to stop but you did not answer me, I dont know but I guess because it takes you out of your calmness and spirituality??

If that is the case, then you should know my dear that debates doesnt mean the debaters hate each other or that they are using arguments to kill each other , a debate is just an argument VS argument, nothing related to hate or anger.

I hope I did not understand wrongly

Best regards and enjoy the debate

 

[ZoyaHayat]

Zoyahat , why do you dislike debates so much? I asked you last time why do you want it to stop but you did not answer me, I dont know but I guess because it takes you out of your calmness and spirituality??

If that is the case, then you should know my dear that debates doesnt mean the debaters hate each other or that they are using arguments to kill each other , a debate is just an argument VS argument, nothing related to hate or anger.

I hope I did not understand wrongly

Best regards and enjoy the debate

Hiyaaaa ...

No no!that is not what i meant at all...

I meant only this-i think debates or arguments lead to distances within members...

That is all i meant xxx

 

[fatima_bintu_islam]

Not necessarily, debates or arguments may lead to change peoples minds about an issue, or to anger if one is not open minded enough , or another is insulting others beliefs under the name of freedom of speech

 

[SLAMH]

Please correct me if I am wrong, by my impression has been that Muslims are not interested in any religion but Islam and if they study any religion at all it is to find fault in them and unfairly compare them with Islam.

Well, you aren't wrong in what you said. Muslims are not interested in any other religions for the reason that Muslims are more satisfied with Islam as it involves in their actual life by its instructions and spiritually by constructing their personalities. Muslims would study other religions for many reasons other than finding some faults in them or comparing them to Islam. It depends on the person's reinforcer to learn or study other religions. Anyway, I believe that each religion has its influence on people's behave, attitude and culture and learning about other religions is the effective path to understand their culture and society and that's my reinforcer to study and read more about other religions.

And thanks for help.

 

[Madhuri]

so, Can you tell me where can I commence a new thread to gain the knowledge about Hinduism?

You can go to the Dharmic DIR, which is directly below the Abrahamic DIR. Find the Hinduism link and you can start a thread there.

Well, here's the link:

Hinduism DIR - Religious Education Forum

 

[.lava]

Not necessarily, debates or arguments may lead to change peoples minds about an issue, or to anger if one is not open minded enough , or another is insulting others beliefs under the name of freedom of speech

i agree, but this is Islam DIR and debates are not allowed

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[fatima_bintu_islam]

Oops, sorry I didnt notice that