Increasing Risk

[Sunstone]

It seems to me the risk of further shenanigans increases each day. That is, the closer we get to Trump's last moment in power, the more at risk we are that he'll want to tear down another pillar or two holding up our country. Nothing is for certain, but I think the risks are increasing.

I don't know if anyone else is thinking along the same lines as I am, but I thought I should mention my thoughts to you as something you might want to think about. Make of them what you will.

 

[SomeRandom]

Omg! I say this as an outsider. I’ve never encountered such a large group of babies in my life. Like a recent PM was filmed crying as the party usurped power from him and ousted him. And even that is more dignified than the so called “MAGA cope.” At least he can claim it was the spur of the moment thing.
These people have been acting like toddlers for all the world to see after they lost an election and it’s beyond embarrassing.
I don’t even get it. Like if my candidate lost in an election I’m not going to cry about it on social media. They lost so I move on with my ****ing life
Pathetic

 

[Valjean]

It seems to me the risk of further shenanigans increases each day. That is, the closer we get to Trump's last moment in power, the more at risk we are that he'll want to tear down another pillar or two holding up our country. Nothing is for certain, but I think the risks are increasing.

I don't know if anyone else is thinking along the same lines as I am, but I thought I should mention my thoughts to you as something you might want to think about. Make of them what you will.

Exactly what's been on my mind, as well.

 

[ChristineM]

It seems to me the risk of further shenanigans increases each day. That is, the closer we get to Trump's last moment in power, the more at risk we are that he'll want to tear down another pillar or two holding up our country. Nothing is for certain, but I think the risks are increasing.

I don't know if anyone else is thinking along the same lines as I am, but I thought I should mention my thoughts to you as something you might want to think about. Make of them what you will.

Im not American but i understand that when America sneezes the rest of the world catches a cold. My concern is another, more organised attempt at coup or violence leading to revolution.

 

[Valjean]

Im not American but i understand that when America sneezes the rest of the world catches a cold. My concern is another, more organised attempt at coup or violence leading to revolution.

Historians could point out numerous, similar historical situations where exactly that has happened.

 

[exchemist]

It seems to me the risk of further shenanigans increases each day. That is, the closer we get to Trump's last moment in power, the more at risk we are that he'll want to tear down another pillar or two holding up our country. Nothing is for certain, but I think the risks are increasing.

I don't know if anyone else is thinking along the same lines as I am, but I thought I should mention my thoughts to you as something you might want to think about. Make of them what you will.

I think the opposite.

I think Trump's authority is completely blown and I think his followers (or those motivated enough for physical action) have shown themselves to be a weak-minded rabble of misfits, who are now widely reviled.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Omg! I say this as an outsider. I’ve never encountered such a large group of babies in my life.

Omg! I note this as an insider:

Far-right politics in Australia​

And then there's

Human Rights Watch: Australia
​

My recommendation would be: vigilance over dismissiveness.

 

[Debater Slayer]

It seems to me the risk of further shenanigans increases each day. That is, the closer we get to Trump's last moment in power, the more at risk we are that he'll want to tear down another pillar or two holding up our country. Nothing is for certain, but I think the risks are increasing.

I don't know if anyone else is thinking along the same lines as I am, but I thought I should mention my thoughts to you as something you might want to think about. Make of them what you will.

I think the ugliest, most morally rotten sides of Trump's base will continue to unravel within the next few weeks or months. He is but one lone, old lunatic; the primary issue is his millions of misinformed and extremely bigoted followers. They will undoubtedly outlast him and Biden, and unless the U.S. undergoes significant cultural or political reform, I expect the problem to last several years or more.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I think the opposite.

I think Trump's authority is completely blown and I think his followers (or those motivated enough for physical action) have shown themselves to be a weak-minded rabble of misfits, who are now widely reviled.

Oh, goodie. Nothing more to worry about. All's well that ends well. Let's push the snooze button and go back to sleep until next time.

 

[exchemist]

Oh, goodie. Nothing more to worry about. All's well that ends well. Let's push the snooze button and go back to sleep until next time.

On the contrary: let's use the momentum of this shock to the body politic for all it is worth, to stop someone more single-minded from exploiting people in similar fashion in future. And let's make sure we have adequate security resources on hand for the next couple of weeks, just in case.

But my best guess would be that the next couple of weeks will prove to be less threatening than the last.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

We will never know how close we came to having political leaders targeted and slaughtered by a fascist mob egged on by Trump and his enablers. Imagine if they had gotten their hands on Pence. Imagine if they had been able to grab Pelosi or members of the Squad.

And yet there is a spineless refusal to invoke the 25th Amendment.

Does anyone truly believe that the worst is behind us?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

But my best guess would be that the next couple of weeks will prove to be less threatening than the last.

Let's all hope that those charged with guarding the Capitol on January 20th recognize the abject stupidity of that evaluation.

 

[Debater Slayer]

We will never know how close we came to having political leaders targeted and slaughtered by a fascist mob egged on by Trump and his enablers. Imagine if they had gotten their hands on Pence. Imagine if they had been able to grab Pelosi or members of the Squad.

And yet there is a spineless refusal to invoke the 25th Amendment.

Does anyone truly believe that the worst is behind us?

In all fairness, I find it hard to sympathize with Pence when, aside from his abysmal irresponsibility and bigotry that killed people during the AIDS outbreak, he has long enabled Trump and the criminal actions and rhetoric that have led to this breaking point.

Pence and Trump deserve each other.

 

[Valjean]

I think the opposite.

I think Trump's authority is completely blown and I think his followers (or those motivated enough for physical action) have shown themselves to be a weak-minded rabble of misfits, who are now widely reviled.

So were the original Black and Brown Shirts.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

In all fairness, I find it hard to sympathize with Pence when, aside from his abysmal irresponsibility and bigotry that killed people during the AIDS outbreak, he has long enabled Trump and the criminal actions and rhetoric that have led to this breaking point.

Pence and Trump deserve each other.

My comment had zero to do with sympathy for Pence. Fascism eats its own and it only whets its appetite.

 

[Debater Slayer]

My comment had zero to do with sympathy for Pence. Fascism eats its own and it only whets its appetite.

I hope the U.S. returns to stability soon and doesn't see more armed riots. Stay safe, my friend.

 

[Vinayaka]

It seems to me the risk of further shenanigans increases each day. That is, the closer we get to Trump's last moment in power, the more at risk we are that he'll want to tear down another pillar or two holding up our country. Nothing is for certain, but I think the risks are increasing.

I don't know if anyone else is thinking along the same lines as I am, but I thought I should mention my thoughts to you as something you might want to think about. Make of them what you will.

Is there anything that you can think about that an individual can do? I know if I was there I'd do some action with my dollar, (boycott any business known to have any right wing or sold stuff) if I knew, and it didn't jeopardize my safety. I know that form up here in your northern neighbour, I can choose to not travel there. Keep my money here.

 

[exchemist]

So were the original Black and Brown Shirts.

There is undoubtedly a parallel - and a very salutary one. However I just don't believe that either Trump or anyone in his inner circle (Giuliani? ) has either the coherence of thought or the drive to exploit these people in order to seize power, the way the Nazis did. Trump himself is effectively powerless now as a president.

Actually, the thing that gives me optimism is that most people in the US now seem to see the danger, at last. What will be important will be to shut down or marginalise the lie factories and deprogramme these idiots that have been taken in. That could be a long and tricky job, especially given the strong US bias in favour of free speech, no matter how mad or objectionable it may be.

 

[Revoltingest]

Im not American but i understand that when America sneezes the rest of the world catches a cold. My concern is another, more organised attempt at coup or violence leading to revolution.

Here's hoping that those who failed to provide proper
security are so embarrassed & worried about their
jobs that they prepare appropriately for Jan 20.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

A bit of history for the "Thank God it's all behind us crowd."

Mein Kampf was written by a grotesque narcissist jailed for a failed coup attempt.