Where's the fingers crossed frube when you need it... I hope you will settle for a winner?
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Where's the fingers crossed frube when you need it... I hope you will settle for a winner?
exchemist
Veteran Member
Ah yes, the Beer Hall Putsch.
I'm concerned about the rally that is set for January 17. The Trumpists will be there again. They feel emboldened by their 'success' on the 6th.
The good side is that people are now taking them seriously and there *may* be an adequate police presence.
My concern is that the rioters may be supported by too many in the police force or the national guard. If those groups don't do their job, we will have a full-fledged coup.
The good side is that people are now taking them seriously and there *may* be an adequate police presence.
My concern is that the rioters may be supported by too many in the police force or the national guard. If those groups don't do their job, we will have a full-fledged coup.
The one comforting thing about that is that Trump is much older than Hitler was when he eventually took power.
More concerning is that there are politicians that are much smarter than Trump and are going for the support of his base (Cruz, for example).
This is very far from being over.
exchemist
Veteran Member
A full-fledged attempted coup, surely?
Quickly putting the people likely to participate in a second coup attempt on the no-fly list would help: it would stop a lot of them from getting to DC (though it probably wouldn't do much for the attacks on state legislatures we also saw on Wednesday).
It's a bit hazy to me about whether this is already happening. The authorities who maintain the actual list are always a bit opaque about how it's generated or who's on it. Apart from that, I'm getting conflicting information:
On one side, they're saying that the no-fly list isn't really set up for domestic terrorism, and this likely won't change until after the inauguration.
On the other side, we have this video that purports to show one of the Capitol rioters in tears after being denied on his flight because he's now on the no-fly list.
... so at this point, I don't know what to think.
exchemist
Veteran Member
They could do worse than ban anyone with a beard from flying. That would catch 80% of them.
Why do all these f***ers have beards?
I do not recall which MSNBC pundit originated the comment, but it deserves to be understood for all that it portends. The comment was:
Please give serious thought to what this means.
There is a new lost cause narrative in this country.
Please give serious thought to what this means.
If the police and National Guard end up supporting the rioters, it will be an ACTUAL coup.
joe1776
Well-Known Member
You're right, of course.
Bigotry is a human, world-wide problem. It's diminishing slowly over the years but will remain a problem for many years to come.
Donald Trump didn't create the problem for America. All he did was to give bigots the notion that they are right and that their arrogant attitude was socially acceptable. Dumping Donald will hamper their social acceptance but will do nothing to make bigots go away.
exchemist
Veteran Member
They won't and, more to the point, nor will the real military. Recent speeches by Mark Milley make that crystal clear.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
more than ever......we should abolish the two party system
most of the squabble is......us vs. them
It's the rainbow frubal...the <optimistic> one.
It appears that Capitol Police Chief Sund was denied
the requested back-up he wanted a couple days in
advance.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...2ce7d4-5384-11eb-a817-e5e7f8a406d6_story.html
Excerpted....
Jan. 10, 2021 at 11:38 p.m. EST
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Two days before Congress was set to formalize President-elect Joe Biden’s victory, Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund was growing increasingly worried about the size of the pro-Trump crowds expected to stream into Washington in protest.
To be on the safe side, Sund asked House and Senate security officials for permission to request that the D.C. National Guard be placed on standby in case he needed quick backup.
Yet Pelosi wanted his head on the chopping block.
https://nypost.com/2021/01/07/pelosi-demands-resignation-of-capitol-police-chief-after-dc-protests/
I sincerely hope you are correct.
Or instead of abolishing it, just remove impediments to 3rd parties.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
too shallow
the herd moves as it has for sooooooo many genereations
and now stampedes are coming up
you need to blow off the old labels and raise a new flag
America is an economically based society
I might be inclined to vote another business man into office
How would we go about abolishing the 2-party system?
Thief
Rogue Theologian
the ballot would be sent to your residence
no mention of party line
the ballot would be sent to American addresses long standing
voter id assured
the politicians would address issuses of concern......party line NOT allowed
any topic.....fine
it really is that simple
People would know party affiliation of the candidates anyway.
And I don't think Ameristan will ever accept voter ID. It would
be decried as racist or anti-poor or anti-immigrant.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
nope......
if you don't use the rep word
I won't use the dem word
and people who are not full fledge American citizens shouldn't be voting