Infinite Soul Vs Finite Self

[wizanda]

On just meditating, realized that there are two independent parts of us....

• The Infinite soul, which stores our experience, and learns wisdom from our life times...
  
  It can be in a state of pure consciousness, especially on recognizing the death of the physical, as it can be fully one with God/Brahman/Universal Mind (CPU).
  
  It is connected by our heart, and thus regulates the whole energy within the body.
  
  
  
• The finite self, is the physical mind, it projects our ego as a defense mechanism.
  
  Thus in an effort to defend its self, it can often become overly accusative (satan).
  
  The level of consciousness is lower in the finite psyche compared to the infinite soul, and sometimes it is called the monkey mind, as it also controls our body, and raw animal instincts.

In Ho'oponoponowe we make friends with the inner child, which is the infinite soul, as it is eternally youthful, and thus in a state of sat chit ananda.

In someways the soul is connected via the heart; yet it is possibly in a place outside of time.

Reason for questioning if everyone's soul is outside of time, depends on our connecting with Oneness in a place of pure infinite consciousness....

In other words to recognize infinity within you, and accept the consequences of that.

 

[Burl]

Then again, the finite self could only amount to a ghost-echo of the infinite experience.

 

[Godobeyer]

In view of Islam, the soul don't die, the self die.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

Then again, the finite self could only amount to a ghost-echo of the infinite experience.

Then again, the "infinite soul" could be a fiction, possibly the result of reading too much into particular experiences. Making assumptions which the experiences themselves do not objectively support, confirmation bias based on existing beliefs, wishful thinking, perhaps even an ego-trip.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

In view of Islam, the soul don't die, the self die.

So in your belief, does the soul have some kind of individuality? What exactly is it that makes your soul different from somebody else's soul?

 

[wizanda]

Then again, the "infinite soul" could be a fiction

The voice within our head, that has advanced knowledge isn't fiction.... Some people assume it is God within Advita Vedanta.

Our heart clearly isn't fiction else you'd be dead, which is the basis for the heart having feelings in many religions, as they're talking about the soul.

perhaps even an ego-trip.

The ego trip is when the finite mind, overshadows the soul.

Btw you can always spot someone who is just full of their own ego, as they're always trying to quote what other people's meanings, and experience is, as they're projecting from their own ego onto others.

When we speak from the soul or universal mind, as Buddha, Lao Tzu, Yeshua, and many other enlightened masters have, they speak from the understanding.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

The voice within our head, that has advanced knowledge isn't fiction.... Some people assume it is God within Advita Vedanta.

There are all sorts of voices in peoples' heads, and I'm not seeing much "advanced knowledge" in what you're saying, just a lot of unfounded claims and random ideas pinched from other sources.

Btw you can always spot someone who is just full of their own ego, as they're always trying to quote what other people's meanings, and experience is, as they're projecting from their own ego onto others.

I think you are projecting again, because this describes you down to the ground. The grandiose pronouncements, the fragile ego, the childish point-scoring, the quote-mining from authentic traditions, and so on.

When we speak from the soul or universal mind, as Buddha, Lao Tzu, Yeshua, and many other enlightened masters have, they speak from the understanding.

I have met some Buddhist masters, and I'm afraid they sounded nothing like you.

 

[Godobeyer]

So in your belief, does the soul have some kind of individuality? What exactly is it that makes your soul different from somebody created same way

So in your belief, does the soul have some kind of individuality? What exactly is it that makes your soul different from somebody else's soul?

In Islam view
God created all souls same way,every person had individual soul

 

[George-ananda]

Infinite Soul Vs Finite Self

I see the 'Infinite Soul' as the universal consciousness (God/Brahman). We are all part of the infinite soul but are temporarily in the illusion/ignorant state of believing we are a 'finite self'. The belief in the 'finite self' leads one to separateness, self-centeredness, fear of others and ultimately suffering. Belief that we are the 'Infinite Soul' leads to just the opposite, togetherness, compassion, brotherly love towards all others, etc.

So, as in the OP title, it really is a Vs. situation. One leads to peace and bliss and the other leads to conflict and suffering.

So let us all acknowledge that we are 'Infinite Soul' and not just a 'Finite Self'!

 

[Rick O'Shez]

In Islam view
God created all souls same way,every person had individual soul

But are the souls all unique? How are they different if there is no self with a personality?

 

[Godobeyer]

But are the souls all unique? How are they different if there is no self with a personality?

Actualy in Islam view the soul is mysterious thing,we have very limited information about it.

https://quran.com/17/85
And they ask you, [O Muhammad], about the soul. Say, "The soul is of the affair of my Lord. And mankind have not been given of knowledge except a little."

 

[wizanda]

I think you are

I'm not seeing....in you

I have met....nothing like you

So much for having no-self.

 

[Burl]

Then again, the "infinite soul" could be a fiction, possibly the result of reading too much into particular experiences. Making assumptions which the experiences themselves do not objectively support, confirmation bias based on existing beliefs, wishful thinking, perhaps even an ego-trip.

And we could perform experiments of which one could deny the proof of.

 

[Kuzcotopia]

Let the infinite be the oneness that exists beyond existence, in the spaces between the physical ohm and spiritual yalp, where twoness of space time shows us the infinite wisdom that must be contained in one alone.

The great Slacknabbit once told a traveler in the texts of Atrapnestle that the beet of the soul lay in the process of digestion. But not food , which is but for our finite selves.. . . It is the digestion of the infinite. We must all let out our belches of thought before the end comes to our finite self.

It is our limitation, but also the fourth passage, the passage of the timeleS time beyond time.

In other words, thanks OP. Thanks for not putting this in a DIR. . . It's more fun for me.

 

[wizanda]

Thanks for not putting this in a DIR. . . It's more fun for me.

More fun for us too.... Not really in any DIR myself; yet acknowledge many of their understandings.

 

[Desert Snake]

The self is finite, the soul is not. The soul is a self, and pre-exists incarnation

 

[wizanda]

The soul is a self

Where? Does our heart have a sense of self, and if it does, isn't that our ego?

When we're dead, we have self in lower dimensions; in the highest we give up all sense of self....

Unconditional love is selfless, and within Oneness it is all one mind with the Source.

We have self identification, which is merely an inwardly reflection; thus illuminating the shadows of our soul...Yet does the soul have a self?

Or is it merely a label we place on self in a physical body?

Like imagine being any animal, would your sense of self be different?

Then again ask the question, is it the soul that has a sense of self?

 

[Desert Snake]

We have self identification, which is merely an inwardly reflection; thus illuminating the shadows of our soul...Yet does the soul have a self?

I would say yes.

Or is it merely a label we place on self in a physical body?

The physical body is not the soul /

 

[wizanda]

then why does that self still exist

Because the lower dimensions are still in linear time, thus the souls within the Matrix are still finite....(Inception) Thxz for the question, not pondered that bit of my NDE.

also why is it responsible for actions that would be considered ,'arbitrary', if there really is no self-soul?

Because within each role that we play, there are always specifications written into that manifestation's code for right conduct (dharma)....

So within that instance of a self, it is judged in its separate finite conditions for that life, yet with infinite knowledge.

Our goal is to recognize first the infinite within our soul (heart), and by doing so attain liberation.


Made me ponder is the finite mind even capable of attaining liberation, as unconditional love comes from the infinite soul?

 

[1137]

I also think the infinite soup can live on independently.