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Insane Times

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
These last few days have been, for lack of a better word, insane times for me. Every single thing that has been going wrong in the last several months converged into one huge boulder that almost led me to kill myself in the last two days. This is a summary of what happened, in logical order:

• After the ruling of the U.S. Supreme Court to legalize same-sex marriage, a lot of posts about it made the rounds on Facebook. There were many homophobic posts on my news feed, to the point where I saw more than one every day. I only know two people who don't share the homophobic sentiments expressed in those posts. Worse, when I changed my profile picture to add a rainbow filter over it, I got comments and even private messages from people telling me that what I had done was a "sin," that I shouldn't support "queer marriage," that I was supporting the things that led to the destruction of the People of Lot because of God's wrath, etc. I ended up deleting the picture not because I stopped supporting LGBT rights but because I got sick and tired of the comments that kept coming in.

Also, someone rejected my friend request after months of stalling, and I'm 95% sure it was because of my secularism, and another asked me, "Are you crazy?" because I said I supported equality for LGBT people.

• After feeling lonely, disillusioned, and generally jaded, mainly because of the above, I went into a depressive episode that almost led me to post one last thread here and go kill myself immediately after. I looked up "Best ways to kill yourself" on Google and ended up reading a long blog post about it to find a reliable way to kill myself, and I'm sure I would have done it if I had found an easy and reliable way to do so. I had to leave school early on the same day because I couldn't concentrate due to depression. I went into the kitchen and passed a knife over my wrist to see if it would hurt and to "test" what it would feel like to kill myself using the knife. I went into bed after that to rest and give myself a break, and I didn't feel any better when I woke up.

• Yesterday I was just about ready to end everything, so I decided to call my therapist to help me. "He is the one person who may be able to help in this situation," I thought to myself. Nope. It didn't work out: I called him only to find that he wasn't there. I had read that a lot of therapists in most developed countries always had a way to contact their patients in cases where the patients were suicidal like I am, but because of the subpar healthcare standards here, therapists are not required to be available at all times for their patients. I was desperate to talk to anyone before killing myself, so I came here and vented to a couple of people. It only worked for a few hours before I felt like going ahead with my thoughts yet again.

This continued until I woke up today feeling the same way as I did the two days before. I went on Facebook only to find more homophobic posts, but then I found two good friends online and talked to them. They made me feel better, mainly because both of them are fellow secularists (although one of them is a Muslim). They both told me to ignore things that made me feel bad and not to let anyone have the power to make me depressed. Talking to them brightened my day in a way that not even both of my therapists could achieve. They literally saved my life by talking to me the way they did. I calmed down a bit and followed their advice to ignore the posts that upset me.

So, here I am a few days later, still depressed but not direly suicidal anymore (despite still being suicidal to an extent). I have thought about posting a "goodbye" thread here before leaving, as I mentioned before, and I'm still kind of thinking about doing that, but at least I called my therapist's secretary today and scheduled a session for Saturday. Yes, the session is on Saturday even though I feel suicidal now and have been feeling this way for a few days. So much for a therapist's being supposed to be there all the time for his suicidal patients.

Sometimes I wonder if compassion is really always a gift. I feel as bad for homosexuals here as I do for myself, if not more. I feel as bad for abused women here as I do for myself. I feel as bad for my neighbor who has to deal with domestic abuse as I do for myself. I don't know if I'm carrying more than my shoulders can withstand, but I can't help it. I empathize with people very easily and very passionately. It has almost caused me to kill myself, but I'm not afraid to say it: it makes me feel proud. If I go down, it will be with pride. I'm not going to change my principles for anyone, much less uninformed and intolerant people.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
DS, I'm sure there are web sites where you can chat online with a suicide prevention counsellor. I'll try to find some URLs, but you might be able to find some with some Googling.
 

jonathan180iq

Well-Known Member

Embrace yourself, love who you are regardless of anyone else, don't allow the opinions or the reactions or thoughts of others to define you. You're a wicked bad *** and no one can take that away from you.
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
There is only ONE you and you are unique and irreplaceable and have no right to take
your own life.
Perhaps stay off facebook, avoid the controversy, you know how you feel & it's no
one else's business.
Ending your life, being depressed, changes nothing in this world.
 

Laika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Sometimes I wonder if compassion is really always a gift. I feel as bad for homosexuals here as I do for myself, if not more. I feel as bad for abused women here as I do for myself. I feel as bad for my neighbor who has to deal with domestic abuse as I do for myself. I don't know if I'm carrying more than my shoulders can withstand, but I can't help it. I empathize with people very easily and very passionately. It has almost caused me to kill myself, but I'm not afraid to say it: it makes me feel proud. If I go down, it will be with pride. I'm not going to change my principles for anyone, much less uninformed and intolerant people.

you do what you can. you can't right every wrong in the world. that' doesn't make us bad people; that just makes us human. it is not your burden to carry, it is a burden we all share. you can only do and give so much, and it is not your fault for being human. we can't make the world perfect, but we can make a difference. you are a good person DS, and don't let anyone else tell you otherwise. there is love in your heart. :)

Glad you're still here. Please accept this Free Hug.

:hugehug:
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
In the short term, try to listen to your friends and avoid triggers. For the long term, think about ways you can address your problems and the issues you care about. Your're going to need to be alive if you're going to do things to help people.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Is there anything you love to do? I love to eat. If I am dead there is no more eating for me. Late in the day I love a cold drink of well water. I would not enjoy that pleasure if I was dead.

I wonder if you have tested to see if something outside of yourself is causing too much stress? I have heard that some young people are so allergic to something in their world that they suffer from it.

People who post dumb opinions of things that are none of their business are trolls. I think you are allergic to trolls. I say stay away from them for awhile. I hope you feel better. I am sure you would be very much missed here if you left. Please do not leave us.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Hang in there, DS.

A recommendation, if you would permit:

Get off $#@%book. Or, at least, cut off from any element of $#@%book that is toxic like this. Don't subject yourself to that environment. Speaking from experience, when we're in a bad state, one of the best things to do is minimize the amount of toxic environments we expose ourselves to. Frequently, we don't have much control over the environment we live in, but anything on the internet is a wonderful exception. Take advantage of that and purge that poison entirely, if at all possible.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
In the short term, try to listen to your friends and avoid triggers. For the long term, think about ways you can address your problems and the issues you care about. Your're going to need to be alive if you're going to do things to help people.

I listen to my friends a lot. When it comes to triggers, there's no way for me to avoid them, since they're all around me; a lot of the triggers are rooted in the modus operandi of the society I'm in. Facebook posts are just a microcosm of the general trends common where I live. I need to learn to face a lot of the triggers instead since I can't really avoid them.

I'm planning to become a women's rights and LGBT rights activist here. That's one of the reasons I've hanged in there for this long, actually.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Hang in there, DS.

A recommendation, if you would permit:

Get off $#@%book. Or, at least, cut off from any element of $#@%book that is toxic like this. Don't subject yourself to that environment. Speaking from experience, when we're in a bad state, one of the best things to do is minimize the amount of toxic environments we expose ourselves to. Frequently, we don't have much control over the environment we live in, but anything on the internet is a wonderful exception. Take advantage of that and purge that poison entirely, if at all possible.

Thanks, Quint. I have a feeling I might end up doing what you suggested, and I've already thought about it.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
These last few days have been, for lack of a better word, insane times for me. Every single thing that has been going wrong in the last several months converged into one huge boulder that almost led me to kill myself in the last two days. This is a summary of what happened, in logical order:

• After the ruling of the U.S. Supreme Court to legalize same-sex marriage, a lot of posts about it made the rounds on Facebook. There were many homophobic posts on my news feed, to the point where I saw more than one every day. I only know two people who don't share the homophobic sentiments expressed in those posts. Worse, when I changed my profile picture to add a rainbow filter over it, I got comments and even private messages from people telling me that what I had done was a "sin," that I shouldn't support "queer marriage," that I was supporting the things that led to the destruction of the People of Lot because of God's wrath, etc. I ended up deleting the picture not because I stopped supporting LGBT rights but because I got sick and tired of the comments that kept coming in.

Also, someone rejected my friend request after months of stalling, and I'm 95% sure it was because of my secularism, and another asked me, "Are you crazy?" because I said I supported equality for LGBT people.

• After feeling lonely, disillusioned, and generally jaded, mainly because of the above, I went into a depressive episode that almost led me to post one last thread here and go kill myself immediately after. I looked up "Best ways to kill yourself" on Google and ended up reading a long blog post about it to find a reliable way to kill myself, and I'm sure I would have done it if I had found an easy and reliable way to do so. I had to leave school early on the same day because I couldn't concentrate due to depression. I went into the kitchen and passed a knife over my wrist to see if it would hurt and to "test" what it would feel like to kill myself using the knife. I went into bed after that to rest and give myself a break, and I didn't feel any better when I woke up.

• Yesterday I was just about ready to end everything, so I decided to call my therapist to help me. "He is the one person who may be able to help in this situation," I thought to myself. Nope. It didn't work out: I called him only to find that he wasn't there. I had read that a lot of therapists in most developed countries always had a way to contact their patients in cases where the patients were suicidal like I am, but because of the subpar healthcare standards here, therapists are not required to be available at all times for their patients. I was desperate to talk to anyone before killing myself, so I came here and vented to a couple of people. It only worked for a few hours before I felt like going ahead with my thoughts yet again.

This continued until I woke up today feeling the same way as I did the two days before. I went on Facebook only to find more homophobic posts, but then I found two good friends online and talked to them. They made me feel better, mainly because both of them are fellow secularists (although one of them is a Muslim). They both told me to ignore things that made me feel bad and not to let anyone have the power to make me depressed. Talking to them brightened my day in a way that not even both of my therapists could achieve. They literally saved my life by talking to me the way they did. I calmed down a bit and followed their advice to ignore the posts that upset me.

So, here I am a few days later, still depressed but not direly suicidal anymore (despite still being suicidal to an extent). I have thought about posting a "goodbye" thread here before leaving, as I mentioned before, and I'm still kind of thinking about doing that, but at least I called my therapist's secretary today and scheduled a session for Saturday. Yes, the session is on Saturday even though I feel suicidal now and have been feeling this way for a few days. So much for a therapist's being supposed to be there all the time for his suicidal patients.

Sometimes I wonder if compassion is really always a gift. I feel as bad for homosexuals here as I do for myself, if not more. I feel as bad for abused women here as I do for myself. I feel as bad for my neighbor who has to deal with domestic abuse as I do for myself. I don't know if I'm carrying more than my shoulders can withstand, but I can't help it. I empathize with people very easily and very passionately. It has almost caused me to kill myself, but I'm not afraid to say it: it makes me feel proud. If I go down, it will be with pride. I'm not going to change my principles for anyone, much less uninformed and intolerant people.
Illigitimi non carborundum, buddy. "Don't let the ******** get you down". There are always going to be haters out there that get their rocks off by looking down on others. So, don't have anything but pride for your ability to think for yourself.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
I listen to my friends a lot. When it comes to triggers, there's no way for me to avoid them, since they're all around me; a lot of the triggers are rooted in the modus operandi of the society I'm in. Facebook posts are just a microcosm of the general trends common where I live. I need to learn to face a lot of the triggers instead since I can't really avoid them.

I'm planning to become a women's rights and LGBT rights activist here. That's one of the reasons I've hanged in there for this long, actually.

That's a remarkable display of courage, DS. You have a degree of courage and warrior spirit that is absent in the hearts of most. Because of that, I have strong confidence that you will hang in there. That you are able to maintain that empathy, that spirit, in the face of such adversity is all the proof I need for that. The passion is what keeps you going, and I don't see that waning. When you learn to channel that well, you'll be one hell of a force to be reckoned with (even more than you are already... hehe). The ground will quake as you walk. Just remember to step carefully. :D
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Illigitimi non carborundum, buddy. "Don't let the ******** get you down". There are always going to be haters out there that get their rocks off by looking down on others. So, don't have anything but pride for your ability to think for yourself.

The sad thing is that they are otherwise kind, peaceful people. It's just that their beliefs are so ignorant and disgusting when it comes to certain issues. Cultural conditioning is indeed a scary thing.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I avoid the News. For news, I watch The Daily Show With Jon Stewart. It is good to laugh. Smiling is good too. Sometimes a smile can fool yourself into a good mood. Am I on ignore?
 

MysticSang'ha

Big Squishy Hugger
Premium Member
These last few days have been, for lack of a better word, insane times for me. Every single thing that has been going wrong in the last several months converged into one huge boulder that almost led me to kill myself in the last two days. This is a summary of what happened, in logical order:

• After the ruling of the U.S. Supreme Court to legalize same-sex marriage, a lot of posts about it made the rounds on Facebook. There were many homophobic posts on my news feed, to the point where I saw more than one every day. I only know two people who don't share the homophobic sentiments expressed in those posts. Worse, when I changed my profile picture to add a rainbow filter over it, I got comments and even private messages from people telling me that what I had done was a "sin," that I shouldn't support "queer marriage," that I was supporting the things that led to the destruction of the People of Lot because of God's wrath, etc. I ended up deleting the picture not because I stopped supporting LGBT rights but because I got sick and tired of the comments that kept coming in.

Also, someone rejected my friend request after months of stalling, and I'm 95% sure it was because of my secularism, and another asked me, "Are you crazy?" because I said I supported equality for LGBT people.

• After feeling lonely, disillusioned, and generally jaded, mainly because of the above, I went into a depressive episode that almost led me to post one last thread here and go kill myself immediately after. I looked up "Best ways to kill yourself" on Google and ended up reading a long blog post about it to find a reliable way to kill myself, and I'm sure I would have done it if I had found an easy and reliable way to do so. I had to leave school early on the same day because I couldn't concentrate due to depression. I went into the kitchen and passed a knife over my wrist to see if it would hurt and to "test" what it would feel like to kill myself using the knife. I went into bed after that to rest and give myself a break, and I didn't feel any better when I woke up.

• Yesterday I was just about ready to end everything, so I decided to call my therapist to help me. "He is the one person who may be able to help in this situation," I thought to myself. Nope. It didn't work out: I called him only to find that he wasn't there. I had read that a lot of therapists in most developed countries always had a way to contact their patients in cases where the patients were suicidal like I am, but because of the subpar healthcare standards here, therapists are not required to be available at all times for their patients. I was desperate to talk to anyone before killing myself, so I came here and vented to a couple of people. It only worked for a few hours before I felt like going ahead with my thoughts yet again.

This continued until I woke up today feeling the same way as I did the two days before. I went on Facebook only to find more homophobic posts, but then I found two good friends online and talked to them. They made me feel better, mainly because both of them are fellow secularists (although one of them is a Muslim). They both told me to ignore things that made me feel bad and not to let anyone have the power to make me depressed. Talking to them brightened my day in a way that not even both of my therapists could achieve. They literally saved my life by talking to me the way they did. I calmed down a bit and followed their advice to ignore the posts that upset me.

So, here I am a few days later, still depressed but not direly suicidal anymore (despite still being suicidal to an extent). I have thought about posting a "goodbye" thread here before leaving, as I mentioned before, and I'm still kind of thinking about doing that, but at least I called my therapist's secretary today and scheduled a session for Saturday. Yes, the session is on Saturday even though I feel suicidal now and have been feeling this way for a few days. So much for a therapist's being supposed to be there all the time for his suicidal patients.

Sometimes I wonder if compassion is really always a gift. I feel as bad for homosexuals here as I do for myself, if not more. I feel as bad for abused women here as I do for myself. I feel as bad for my neighbor who has to deal with domestic abuse as I do for myself. I don't know if I'm carrying more than my shoulders can withstand, but I can't help it. I empathize with people very easily and very passionately. It has almost caused me to kill myself, but I'm not afraid to say it: it makes me feel proud. If I go down, it will be with pride. I'm not going to change my principles for anyone, much less uninformed and intolerant people.

Damn, I love you so much. I'm so proud of you. xoxoxo :glomp:
 
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