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Insight: Why some people don't wear masks

Thief

Rogue Theologian
btw.....

a swab sample from your pillow case
is virtually identical to a sample from your
toilet seat

something to consider on the next occasion for that peck on the cheek
 
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Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
It's a generalization. People who don't live in public areas wouldn't need to. Judgement call. Six feet and washing hands are better imo

And you think your opinion is better than those of the medical professionals?

This is part of the problem. There has been a decline of acceptance that there are people who know more than others. There are experts that actually study these things and KNOW MORE THAN YOU DO.

Unless you have a degree in epidemiology, your opinion is exactly worthless.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
And you think your opinion is better than those of the medical professionals?

This is part of the problem. There has been a decline of acceptance that there are people who know more than others. There are experts that actually study these things and KNOW MORE THAN YOU DO.

Unless you have a degree in epidemiology, your opinion is exactly worthless.

An attack?

It's a personal opinion based on my personal situation. Every person is different. The scientist has to generalize. Laws aren't ideally biased.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Oh, wow. Don't know about that. I can count the amount of people not wearing masks on one hand here. While smoking, while jogging, in their cars, crossing the street. We don't need to at out fitness club fr health reasons but one or two do. Depends on the nachibe they use etc.

I mean people may think I'm ignorant. Generalizations aren't always a good way to assertain the truth.


In the car, no problem, you can always put your mask on before exiting the car.

Whether people think its acceptable to not wear a mask in public is down to their own conscience, a conscience often based on ignorance of the facts, or sometimes rebellion against medical advice. You have just shown your ignorance regarding CV19 suspended in air or as a projectile.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
In the car, no problem, you can always put your mask on before exiting the car.

Whether people think its acceptable to not wear a mask in public is down to their own conscience, a conscience often based on ignorance of the facts, or sometimes rebellion against medical advice. You have just shown your ignorance regarding CV19 suspended in air or as a projectile.

It depends on ones situation. Wearing a mask outside where there is no people won't make people at risk to catch viruses. Of course wear them in stores, crowded places, etc. I do that. So what.

But many people do not. The OP is talking about people who refused to do so. Totally different than judgement call. Don't assume.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
It depends on ones situation. Wearing a mask outside where there is no people won't make people at risk to catch viruses. Of course wear them in stores, crowded places, etc. I do that. So what.

But many people do not. The OP is talking about people who refused to do so. Totally different than judgement call. Don't assume.


I was specific in stating in public. We are surrounded by hundreds of square kilometres of forest, chances od even seeing another human being out there are pretty slim. But getting there and back we must walk through the village, with people.

You have listed places like your health club, no assumption necessary
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
An attack?

It's a personal opinion based on my personal situation. Every person is different. The scientist has to generalize. Laws aren't ideally biased.

It's not an attack to say you don't know as much as an epidemiologist who actually studies these things.

Unless you actually know some epidemiology, you aren't even qualified to determine what is *actually* best for yourself. That is why we have experts: they can study these things and give advice based on evidence as opposed to just personal fantasies.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
I was specific in stating in public. We are surrounded by hundreds of square kilometres of forest, chances od even seeing another human being out there are pretty slim. But getting there and back we must walk through the village, with people.

You have listed places like your health club, no assumption necessary

Fitness club depends on the exercise. Jogging isn't required. They seperated the machines by two in between. There's a 100 people limit so I go in the morning where only ten people are present.

It's a judgement call
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
It depends on ones situation. Wearing a mask outside where there is no people won't make people at risk to catch viruses. Of course wear them in stores, crowded places, etc. I do that. So what.

But many people do not. The OP is talking about people who refused to do so. Totally different than judgement call. Don't assume.

Those that do not wear masks in crowded places are either stupid or jerks. Period. And there are *way* too many people like that.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
I am willing to more than assume …..
our efforts in public are superficial
and the effort may actually be doing harm

it spreads by contact more so than any other means

so the guy ahead of you handles a labeled item and puts it back
you're next

the money in your pocket......ooops

the door with a push plate......ooops
the door with a pull grip.....oooops

workplace fans?.....oh yeah
one sneeze and the whole department gets a sample

and I truly believe the damn thing is air borne
as such can drift into the upper air currents

you think it dies for lack of flesh?
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
It's not an attack to say you don't know as much as an epidemiologist who actually studies these things.

Unless you actually know some epidemiology, you aren't even qualified to determine what is *actually* best for yourself. That is why we have experts: they can study these things and give advice based on evidence as opposed to just personal fantasies.

If I have a seizure I'm not familiar with I go to the doctors. I have a history of them so I know when not to go. I'm not a doctor but I am aware of how my body functions. I never had shortness of breath so I'd go to the doctors if I do. Once in a blue moon I sneeze probably cause of dust so I don't. If it's a combination of symptoms and I'm at risk I do. It's a judgement call. If I went to the hospital Everytime I seized I'd take beds from those who need it including covid patients.

It's a combination of things. If I depended on doctors to assess everything, I'd be dead. No pun.
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
Why would it be embarassing for them to change their minds in the face of facts?

I don't know about you, but personally, I'd rather have experts and leaders doing that, than the opposite, i.e. stubbornly clinging to opinions that have been refuted by contrary evidence.

What new fact made they change their minds about the masks?
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Those that do not wear masks in crowded places are either stupid or jerks. Period. And there are *way* too many people like that.
I am more disciplined than my counterparts
I do so because I can
and I don't want crazies in my face

but as you point out.....WAY too many cheating on the cover
so..

come on over to my side of the argument
people are not being careful
and they don't want to be

you're next
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
Let me put it this way.

If the temperature is 30 below outside and you decide you want to go for an hour walk with only a t-shirt and shorts, I would all you stupid and foolhardy.

And if doing so puts other people at risk, you are a jerk.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Those that do not wear masks in crowded places are either stupid or jerks. Period. And there are *way* too many people like that.

Well, good I do. The OP was talking of those who don't for many different reasons. I just thought it was a good topic rather than accuse my opinions about masks that have no bearing on why I put one on regardless. Not sure I'd say personally people are wrong for not wearing masks. It's panic, rebellion, judgement, politics, and ignorance on both sides.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Raw example. I don't like killing. If I were a militant and needed to I would. That doesn't change my opinion but that has no bearing on protecting my country.

The OP is talking of those whose opinions reflect their behavior. They won't protect there country because they don't like killing. Not OPs are personal.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Let me put it this way.

If the temperature is 30 below outside and you decide you want to go for an hour walk with only a t-shirt and shorts, I would all you stupid and foolhardy.

And if doing so puts other people at risk, you are a jerk.

Why the negativity and names?

All people are ignorant about a lot of things.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
Why the negativity and names?

All people are ignorant about a lot of things.

And to say they are ignorant and acting in a foolhardy way isn't being 'negative': it is being honest and, maybe, hoping they will change their behavior. And, if they put others at risk, then calling them a jerk is the minimum comment I see as appropriate.
 
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