Insulting?

[Twilight Hue]

The first and most obvious insult is that anyone who believes in God is mentally deficient.

I think it lies more with how that belief is carried out and demonstrated.

Take snake handlers for instance. I have no problems at all viewing them as being mentally deficient. Its not the belief in God, it's the sheer stupidity.

 

[Pudding]

I never said it made sense or was effective, just that I don't think they mean insult.

I understand that they may sincerely don't mean insult but maybe sometimes it can be consider as an unintended insult.

 

[dgirl1986]

a conversation between A and B.
A: B is stupid.
B: I don't think so.

Therefor A is not insult B?

For example?

I think I made a type in my original response. It should have said it is not an insult.

Someone can think those things all they want, I am not going to be insulted. However, if someone screams at me from across the street that I am a dirty homo that needs to burn in hell because I am an abomination and deviant that deserves to die, I may get insulted. Just maybe.

 

[Pudding]

I think I made a type in my original response. It should have said it is not an insult.

Someone can think those things all they want, I am not going to be insulted. However, if someone screams at me from across the street that I am a dirty homo that needs to burn in hell because I am an abomination and deviant that deserves to die, I may get insulted. Just maybe.

Thanks for the explain.

 

[LuisDantas]

I am not understanding the question in the OP.

 

[Pudding]

I am not understanding the question in the OP.

I mean, when some believer using their religion's [moral/law] to [judge/comdemn/preaching] to non-believer, is the [judge/comdemn/preaching] itself sometimes filling with insult towards the non-believer?

Some example:
Non-believer are evil; sinner; immoral; abomination; blind for not seeing a specific god's existence... etc.

 

[LuisDantas]

I mean, when some believer using their religion's [moral/law] to [judge/comdemn/preaching] to non-believer, is the [judge/comdemn/preaching] itself sometimes filling with insult towards the non-believer?

Some example:
Non-believer are evil; sinner; immoral; abomination; blind for not seeing a specific god's existence... etc.

Moral judgements, necessary as they are, always have to deal with such a risk.

Which is why judging disbelief itself is so dangerous and weird.

 

[sojourner]

Self righteousness goes with the territory doesn't' it ?.

No. Not where Xy is concerned. Humility -- not hubris -- is a Xian tenet.

 

[sojourner]

Why should you care so much about what people of faith think.

It's not about what people think. It's about what people say. And there's waaaaay too much "speaking one's mind" being put out there. In a world that is becoming increasingly small and diverse, respect and tact are extremely important.

 

[sojourner]

I agree it could be an insult if it had any ring of possible truth to it. On the other hand, a person is free to take whatever is said about them, no matter how innocuous or silly, as an insult. So I guess even if there's no possible truth to it, if a person cares enough what someone says about them it can be regarded as an insult. Personally, if I was a theist or deist and someone said that anyone who believes in God is mentally deficient, I would find it far more amusing than insulting. But to each his own.

No -- not "to each his own." We have to learn how to care for each other -- not judge and deride each other. Insult is insult; it's poor form, and it's hurtful -- no matter how thick one's skin is.

 

[Pudding]

Moral judgements, necessary as they are, always have to deal with such a risk.

Which is why judging disbelief itself is so dangerous and weird.

Dangerous it can be. But it is weird in what aspect?

 

[LuisDantas]

Dangerous it can be. But it is weird in what aspect?

More often than not it looks suspiciously close to people deciding that they know better than the very Creator God they believe in when it comes to how necessary it is for unbelievers to be convinced.

 

[SpeaksForTheTrees]

Is no one can judge anyone on belief in God both scenarios are reasonably possible .

 

[Pudding]

More often than not it looks suspiciously close to people deciding that they know better than the very Creator God they believe in when it comes to how necessary it is for unbelievers to be convinced.

The intentions/reason why those believer do/think so, can be in many different ways. Suspicious or not it may hard to determine. But skeptical about the beliefs when one see no good reasons/evidence/proof to believe so, maybe is a logical decision.

 

[Pudding]

Is no one can judge anyone on belief in God both scenarios are reasonably possible .

The scenarios that it's insulting and not insulting indeed is both reasonably possible.

 

[SpeaksForTheTrees]

The scenarios that it's insulting and not insulting indeed is both reasonably possible.

The same can be said about anal sex ?
Yes to some believers you are heathen and in an Islamic world you would be beheaded , so what get over it ).

 

[Pudding]

The same can be said about anal sex ?

What do you mean?

Yes to some believers you are heathen and in an Islamic world you would be beheaded , so what get over it ).

This is a discussion, i understand that if people think this topic is unimportant/meaningless to them then they need not to participate in it. Or that they think it's not a big problem and already get over it.

But for those people who're interested in this topic, they can continue to participate in. Their interest for this topic doesn't automatically means that interest is bad/immature to need them to "get over it".

 

[Smart_Guy]

The same can be said about anal sex ?
Yes to some believers you are heathen and in an Islamic world you would be beheaded , so what get over it ).

Could you please provide a source for the Islamic part?

My information is that it is not allowed only. No heathen-ry and no beheading.

 

[Jumi]

There are countries with Islam where it's allowed like Indonesia.

 

[Smart_Guy]

I meant not allowed by Islamic teachings not by a country. This is one of those sins that have no punishment in this life.