Intellectual Defense of Christianity.

[angellous_evangellous]

This is spammed all over the internet as well...

Plagiarism Sample #3

[copied from the paper]
"The bible has been attacked more than other book in history and yet it has so greatly survived. In A.D. 300 Diocletian ordered every bible be burned, yet only 25 years later, Emperor Constantine ordered 50 bibles be made at government expense. Voltaire, a french philosopher boasted that within 100 years of his death that the bible would disappear from the earth; 50 years after his death the Geneva Bible Society moved into his former house and used his own printing presses to print thousands of bibles.



The preservation of the Bible is incredible; We have some 5,300 Greek manuscripts of the New Testament. If you include the Syriac, Latin, Coptic, and Aramaic, we have a total of 24,633 manuscripts of the New Testament. Compare this to secular works like: Aristotles “Ode to Poetics” was written between 384 B.C. And 322 B.C., there are only 49 manuscripts of this work, there are only 7 of Plato's “Tetraologies” which was written 427-347 B.C. We have only 10 copies of the original writings of Julius Ceasar, We have only 600 Copies of Homer's “The Illiad”

The bible is the most read and printed book in all of human history, by 1930 over 1 billion bibles has been distributed by Bible societies. By 1977 Bible societies were printing over 200 million bibles each year, and this doesn't include the rest of the publishing companies. The bible has been translated into around 1,400 langauges, no other book even comes close."

Available:
Who was Jesus Christ? - Page 13 - Pinkbike Forum

How We Got Our Bible

 

[angellous_evangellous]

One would think that one would be honest with people -- especially when trying to defend Christianity. It's not wise to plagiarize (which is a severe form of intellectual dishonesty) and then to lie about it -- presumably in the interest of sharing truth.

I can only assume that (1) our friend has no clue what plagiarism is OR (2) he thought we were idiots and we wouldn't catch it.

I suggest revising this paper before anyone else sees it.

 

[Ingledsva]

One would think that one would be honest with people -- especially when trying to defend Christianity. It's not wise to plagiarize (which is a severe form of intellectual dishonesty) and then to lie about it -- presumably in the interest of sharing truth.

I can only assume that (1) our friend has no clue what plagiarism is OR (2) he thought we were idiots and we wouldn't catch it.

I suggest revising this paper before anyone else sees it.

And he titles himself - Baptist Preacher.




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[Jordan Kurecki]

Plagiarism Sample #1

Tract Library :: Flyer Tracts :: Living Water (KJV) - PrintMyTract.com

"The word repent means a change of mind, heart, or emotion about something. Repentance is not ceasing from sin, penance, or paying for sin, reformation, ... Repentance is simply a change of our heart and attitude towards something."

I am the author of the material in that tract.

 

[Jordan Kurecki]

You're not doing yourself any favors, here.

You do know what plagiarism is, don't you? It's when you highlight something online, hit copy (control +C) and then you paste it into your paper (control +V) without quotes or proper citation.

I stopped reading your paper after I found three rather long blocks of text that regularly appear in papers of this quality.

The thing is, people like you tend to recycle the same stuff.

Adding lying to laziness is not going to help your case.

So you stopped reading my paper? and did not get to the end to where I put:

"Facts on the bible taken from:
Cameron, Kirk, and Ray Comfort. The School of Biblical Evangelism: 101 Lessons: How to Share Your Faith Simply, Effectively, Biblically-- the Way Jesus Did. Gainseville, FL: Bridge-Logos, 2004. Print."

 

[Jordan Kurecki]

ok. Apparently I did not do in text citations for quotes that I should have. For this I apologize as I thought citing the source at the end was enough.

 

[Jordan Kurecki]

I will remove this and go and find the quotes and put citations in the text.

Sorry for any who were upset by my ignorant plagiarism.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

So you stopped reading my paper? and did not get to the end to where I put:

"Facts on the bible taken from:
Cameron, Kirk, and Ray Comfort. The School of Biblical Evangelism: 101 Lessons: How to Share Your Faith Simply, Effectively, Biblically-- the Way Jesus Did. Gainseville, FL: Bridge-Logos, 2004. Print."

That's not how it's done, my friend.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

I will remove this and go and find the quotes and put citations in the text.

Sorry for any who were upset by my ignorant plagiarism.

There ya go! I knew it was a matter of protocol.

A lot of people don't know what plagiarism is until they are told. That's unfortunate, but that's how it is.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Hey Jordan -

Quotation marks would signal to the reader that you know that you are quoting something. Seriously. Otherwise the reader doesn't know where bible facts that you know end and the quotes from others begin... and it's fair to assume that you are presenting the unquoted material as your own.

(I am concerned that there won't be much of a paper after the quotes are inserted."

Time to write a thank you note to Mr. Cameron and Mr. Comfort. And send them a banana.

Remember you're quoting these guys (dumb and dumber) as authorities:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfucpGCm5hY

Note:
Kirk Cameron - probably a well-intentioned dullard
Ray Comfort - dishonest, lying fraud (this is not news to anyone)

 

[outhouse]

"Facts on the bible taken from:
Cameron, Kirk, and Ray Comfort.

Then they are factually not facts.

Cameron :slap: you have to be kidding me.


I noticed you literally ran from the credible sources I posted telling the truth of the matter.

 

[Whiterain]

I'm struggling with the growing mockery of Catholicism/Christianity; seeing the millions that have
died in any argument over the last 2,000 years. It is gut wrenching and overwhelmingly depressing to
see it amount to little more than a burden of grief.

People in today's society have a powerful voice and they want to change the dogma to suit modern
day society; it's abdominal and at least it can be done humanely.

I see Catholicism and Christianity as the physical Kingdom of Christ; even though he may be
mortified by many of the events that took place with or without his consent over the last 2,000
years. Whether or not it was backed by old Gods is a growing concern of mine. To me it
is his Kingdom. These are his castles and his houses; I want it to amount to more than a joke, it definitively
reformed society over the ages though. It seems that it must now reform to suit the needs of the
sinners.

I'm not apologetic, nor is nature; It almost fuels a hatred in me towards this being a torrential
**** up in history.

 

[Shad]

The Banana man... really?

 

[Ingledsva]

I'm struggling with the growing mockery of Catholicism/Christianity; seeing the millions that have
died in any argument over the last 2,000 years. It is gut wrenching and overwhelmingly depressing to
see it amount to little more than a burden of grief.

People in today's society have a powerful voice and they want to change the dogma to suit modern
day society; it's abdominal and at least it can be done humanely.

I see Catholicism and Christianity as the physical Kingdom of Christ; even though he may be
mortified by many of the events that took place with or without his consent over the last 2,000
years. Whether or not it was backed by old Gods is a growing concern of mine. To me it
is his Kingdom. These are his castles and his houses; I want it to amount to more than a joke, it definitively
reformed society over the ages though. It seems that it must now reform to suit the needs of the
sinners.

I'm not apologetic, nor is nature; It almost fuels a hatred in me towards this being a torrential
**** up in history.

One would think you folks would be going after the rape of children in the church, - with the same furor you go after homosexuality, - which in reality isn't even in the Bible.


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[Ingledsva]

So you stopped reading my paper? and did not get to the end to where I put:

"Facts on the bible taken from:
Cameron, Kirk, and Ray Comfort. The School of Biblical Evangelism: 101 Lessons: How to Share Your Faith Simply, Effectively, Biblically-- the Way Jesus Did. Gainseville, FL: Bridge-Logos, 2004. Print."

Dude! If you take that much material from one source - and put in your document - it is still plagiarism!



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[Desert Snake]

Hey OP

I don't need an apologetic but thanks anyways.

 

[Sapiens]

Not intellectual, not much of a defense, what can one expect from a Kurt Cameron fan? This dude's the kinda "preacher" my kid,when he was a teen, used to chew up just for practice.

 

[viole]

So you stopped reading my paper? and did not get to the end to where I put:

"Facts on the bible taken from:
Cameron, Kirk, and Ray Comfort. The School of Biblical Evangelism: 101 Lessons: How to Share Your Faith Simply, Effectively, Biblically-- the Way Jesus Did. Gainseville, FL: Bridge-Logos, 2004. Print."

Ray Comfort? Mmh.

I don't see how you can call intellectual anything that comes from him. Probably, his highest intellectual achievement is the banana argument for the existence of God.

Ciao

- viole

 

[roger1440]

The word Bible is a proper noun. The first letter should always be capitalized. Quotes must always be in parentheses. The source must be given for the quote. When quotes are four or more lines it is best to intent them. Most of the time I put my quotes in italics. A few examples:

“Jesus said, "If your leaders say to you, 'Look, the (Father's) kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the (Father's) kingdom is within you and it is outside you.” (Gospel of Thomas, saying 3)The Gospel of Thomas Collection -- Translations and Resources


20 Once, on being asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, Jesus replied, “The coming of the kingdom of God is not something that can be observed, 21 nor will people say, ‘Here it is,’ or ‘There it is,’ because the kingdom of God is in your midst.” (Luke 17:20-21)
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[metis]

There is one reference of a man and his household being baptized. it does not say anything about infants being baptized, for those who hold to infant baptism to claim this is absurd, it would be just as absurd for me to boldly say that there teenagers baptized, the text does not give the age of any of them baptized, for all we know it could have just been a husband and wife with one or two servants.

Except we well know that there were some young-uns baptised even if we don't know their ages, even though adult baptism was still the norm. Indeed it makes sense to have an entire family baptized since the parents (back then, the father) was the standard-bearer of the family and directed what was to be practiced.

It is therefore absurd on your part to somehow miraculously "know" that there were no infants baptised. Unlike most Americans today, back in biblical times families were much more tight-knit and very patriarchal, so what Daddy believed and did, the family mostly believed and did.

Therefore, the problem you have is looking at these past events through just modern western eyes instead of through the eyes of people back then and there.