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Interesting graphic on the evolution of corn

jonathan180iq

Well-Known Member
Well it does fit nicely in the hand, is easy to peel, is nutritious and tasty.

Curses, do not tell Comfort.

I was hoping this would be mentioned :D

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Thief

Rogue Theologian
I heard recently by radio....96% of all corn is now genetically modified.

Not good.

It will not reproduce true to form.
The seed is a patented product owned (I think it's Monsanto)

Farmer's are now dependent on buying seed every year.
They must also use the fertilizers and bug spray offered.

(Monsanto got it's big start making Agent Orange)

Diversifying into other crops there is now a problem with wheat.
It has become spray resistant and will spread like a weed.
(technically a weed is any plant not where it is desired)

Soybeans will become the same way.

I did see someone speak of this in a documentary.
He held for the camera a sample of 'natural' corn compared to hybrid.
The natural version kinda resembles a large version of wheat ...sort of.
Only a few kernels in the husk.
 

jonathan180iq

Well-Known Member
So corn evolved into....corn! :facepalm:

Same genus. Different species.

The ancestor was like a wheat grass. And granted, its prominence today is due to selective breeding, but all of the data was there originally to produce modern corn so it could have produced itself - we just sped up the process.

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metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Much the same happened with wheat, as it went from goat grass to emmer to wheat to bread-wheat, the latter of which has such heavy seed that it would not have spread had it not been for human cultivation.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
How do they know it tasted like a raw, dry potato I wonder? What if our ancestors then had different taste buds (seems plausible) and it tasted like chicken to them?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
How do they know it tasted like a raw, dry potato I wonder? What if our ancestors then had different taste buds (seems plausible) and it tasted like chicken to them?
I vaguely recall discovery of ancient corn somewhere.
Perhaps they cooked & ate it...for research purposes, eh?
 

jonathan180iq

Well-Known Member
Not even that is necessary. We know what thousands of different chemicals taste like. We know what thousands of different chemical combinations taste like. We even know what thousands of chemicals and chemical combinations taste like to people who have different types of genes, which would create variances in the experience of taste from the "norm".

All that's necessary is to do a chemical analysis of the ancient corn and decipher what the combination of chemical percentages would have tasted like together. It's all very simple.

And no. For the record, it is not logical to just assume that ancestors had different taste buds. Unless you find evidence showing otherwise, the cranial circumference and jaw shape of even the oldest homo sapiens ever recorded give no reason to assume that their tongues, brains, or taste buds would be any different from ours.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Not even that is necessary. We know what thousands of different chemicals taste like. We know what thousands of different chemical combinations taste like. We even know what thousands of chemicals and chemical combinations taste like to people who have different types of genes, which would create variances in the experience of taste from the "norm".

All that's necessary is to do a chemical analysis of the ancient corn and decipher what the combination of chemical percentages would have tasted like together. It's all very simple.

And no. For the record, it is not logical to just assume that ancestors had different taste buds. Unless you find evidence showing otherwise, the cranial circumference and jaw shape of even the oldest homo sapiens ever recorded give no reason to assume that their tongues, brains, or taste buds would be any different from ours.
Considering it's really only a very slight genetic difference between us and other apes, I see no reason to assume they would have tasted things the same as we do. 9,000 years isn't that long ago, but I highly doubt our bone structure is the only real change we've went through. And because we don't live in the same environment anymore, it seems very reasonable that there are going to be many differences between us and them. I also doubt they perceived the same colors as we do, if anything probably not being able to tell the difference from as many different shades of the same color as we can. But because we don't have their eyes left to study, though it seems likely (given several thousands years for the cornea, cones, rods, and all that other stuff to more finely tune), there is no way to study it. But give our evolution some more time, and we may be able to see things in the distance as well in the future as we can today.
 

jonathan180iq

Well-Known Member
We're only talking about 9,000 years... We haven't changed at all.

Your premise isn't wrong if you're talking about preferences. Change your diet to strictly that of raw grains and dry meat for a week and you'll notice some drastic palate changes. But the texture and experience of flavor is still what we can all relate to. And unless we find some evidence to suggest otherwise, in regards to vision ability or taste or whatever, we can't just assume something because it's cool.
 
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