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Is a Christian's salvation dependent on what Paul said?

Theodore A. Jones

Active Member
But he invokes Jesus name so he is sort of a Jesus by proxy. Historical evidence suggest Paul probably never met Jesus and even if he did all of the rules he sets out don't have Jesus direct blessing. The 4 synoptic gospel writers can at least back each other up.
"all of the rules he sets out" What rules are you complaining about?
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
You mistake for ego Paul's proof of his authority to the Judaizers who said that only apostles had authority, that Paul was not an apostle, and that he had no authority to preach that salvation was by faith and not by law keeping.
Is this Jesus saying it is by law keeping?
Joh 10:9 I am the door; by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and go out, and shall find pasture.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
lets get to the core so you guys know what your talking about.

based possibly on a stolen religion theres this dead jesus cat, people start telling storys about him for a good 10 years before these storys get written down in eschatological material and son of man material, maybe 10-15 ish years after the cat is smoked, written down by a unknown author known as Q, theres a thomas tale attached to this that pops up 25 ish years later. 5 years ish pass since Qs original work and Q's work gets a little more work done known as late strada codified Q. NOW the earliest work of unknown author called mark start showing up on the scene a good 37 years after historical jesus was smoked. later on luke copies a little Q and a little mark. Mat copies a little Q which later turns out in a augmented mark in the second century. Throw in a little sercet mark and carporcration mark and WE FINALY GET canonical mark in which the NT is based

Historicaly speaking you have very little to work from or work with.

Calling the NT a myth is not a stretch by any means. you had oral trasmission for a decade ish before anything was written down, the tales were told and told again by many people. OF the MANY only 1 or 2 wrote anything down so your dealing with someones interpitation that you base your whole beliefs from.

Thats fact brothers

I believe that is speculation and fantasy like looking at bones and making up stories about them.
 

Theodore A. Jones

Active Member
Is this Jesus saying it is by law keeping?
Joh 10:9 I am the door; by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and go out, and shall find pasture.

You betcha His word 'door' is indeed referencing a law. But that law was not put into effect until after his ascension. However if it had been possible for anyone to discover from any source that God's purpose for his murder was to make a change of the law by adding to it. Jesus Christ would have never been murdered by crucifying him. And the Way of salvation would have been impossible to perfect. See 1 Cor. 2:7-10, regarding that the plural pronoun 'us' in vs. 10 is only inclusive of the personages who were apostles.
 
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