Is Allah God? Is that a silly question??

[Spirit of Light]

Again, Allah is just an arabic word for God or rather "The God". So your statement is not quite correct. I do understand that some people believe these are "names" but the Quranic perspective is never meant to denote a name to God. God, is simply God. He is one. So there is no name for him. The word Allah is a bit of a unique word so people have turned it into a proper name. Yet, Elohim is generally translated as Allah because El is considered a generic reference to any God or just a replacement of the word God.

Look like you already made up your mind about the correct answer to your OP
That is of course not a problem, it just get a bit more difficult to discuss it then

 

[Terry Sampson]

Yup

Okay, then, ... yes, I understood your metaphor; and I objected to it: There isn't just one beach on earth.
Is there one beach in the Universe? I think not. To compound the problem, there are folks who say that there are many universes: i.e. multiverses.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Okay, then, ... yes, I understood your metaphor; and I objected to it: There isn't just one beach on earth.
Is there one beach in the Universe? I think not. To compound the problem, there are folks who say that there are many universes: i.e. multiverses.

The metaphor comes from " there are many paths leading to heaven" I just made my own version of it

 

[chinu]

So when I finish the spiritual path in life, I just jump in the sea dang it, I don't want to get wet......

If you fear so, then, am afraid its NOT a spiritual path.

 

[firedragon]

Look like you already made up your mind about the correct answer to your OP
That is of course not a problem, it just get a bit more difficult to discuss it then

Brother. I think you have misunderstood the whole thing.

Its simple language I speak of. And of course, I will correct you if I think you have made an error, and you can too. Thats how the cookie would crumble.

 

[firedragon]

For some people Allah is god.
For some people Allah is not god.

Semantics does not help you.

For some people god is god.
For some people god is not god.

Semantics does not help you.

Thats your statement in reality.

 

[firedragon]

That's ok as said iI am no expert on Islam so of course my understanding can be wrong

We can all share mate. Thats what we are here for. You could correct me if I am wrong.

 

[firedragon]

Yes, its rather redundant. Allah is simply the word for God in arabic. If you were an arabian christian, your Bible would also refer to God as Allah.

Absolutely.

 

[Valjean]

At the risk of being off-topic, if there are countless gods shouldn't Muslims endeavour to find the best of the Gods to follow?

There are many ball clubs, too, but most people prefer their local one to the current champion.

 

[exchemist]

If you translate the word Allah which is Arabic, this question would be "Is God God?"!

If one is unaware, one can be corrected but if you insist....

I thought Allah means The God, i.e. Al-Lah. Have I got that wrong?

 

[TransmutingSoul]

If you translate the word Allah which is Arabic, this question would be "Is God God?"!

If one is unaware, one can be corrected but if you insist....

God to us is defined by the Messenger and the Message they give.

So all we can know of God (Allah) is only via the Messengers Person, life and Message given.

So all we say God is, is not God.

Regards Tony

 

[firedragon]

I thought Allah means The God, i.e. Al-Lah. Have I got that wrong?

You are right. But you got the conjunction wrong. Its AL+iLah, not AL+LAH.

 

[firedragon]

God to us is defined by the Messenger and the Message they give.

So all we can know of God (Allah) is only via the Messengers Person, life and Message given.

So all we say God is, is not God.

Regards Tony

I did not honestly understand the relevance of this statement to the OP.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

I did not honestly understand the relevance of this statement to the OP.

The post asked is Allah, God which then went on to say that is the same as asking if God is God.

So as God is One God, no matter what the name is. God is relative to our own mind and frames of reference.

To answer it further, first who and what is God? All our minds can conceive about God, is not God.

So, where do you want the OP to go?

Regards Tony

 

[firedragon]

The post asked is Allah, God which then went on to say that is the same as asking if God is God.

So as God is One God, no matter what the name is. God is relative to our own mind and frames of reference.

To answer it further, first who and what is God? All our minds can conceive about God, is not God.

So, where do you want the OP to go?

Regards Tony

Okay. I understand what you are saying.

You asked e where I want the OP to go? I would wish it to go into an understanding that its just another language and future discussions will have more maturity in terms of understanding a simple thing, that Allah is an arabic word for God. There are many who refute this absolutely and directly and insist that it is an arabic God with a proper name Allah and the strange thing is even non-arabic speaking, and individuals with no knowledge in the language of Arabic make insisting thesis that Allah is the name of an arabic God. Thus, I would like the OP and the thread to create some kind of understanding that it is not.

Peace.

 

[SalixIncendium]

If you translate the word Allah which is Arabic, this question would be "Is God God?"!

If one is unaware, one can be corrected but if you insist....

Thanks for clarifying. Unfortunately, most here don't speak Arabic.

Now, if there are no objections, I'll be going back to sending my vehicle identification number number to my insurance company. Then I'll be going to the automatic teller machine machine to got some cash. I just need to remember my personal identification number number.

 

[InvestigateTruth]

If you translate the word Allah which is Arabic, this question would be "Is God God?"!

If one is unaware, one can be corrected but if you insist....

No, for many, Allah is the God in the Quran, because the Muslims, even in English use the word Allah always. That is what they mean. And it doesnt matter if they are technically correct or not. As long as it is clear what they mean, it is fine.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Okay. I understand what you are saying.

You asked e where I want the OP to go? I would wish it to go into an understanding that its just another language and future discussions will have more maturity in terms of understanding a simple thing, that Allah is an arabic word for God. There are many who refute this absolutely and directly and insist that it is an arabic God with a proper name Allah and the strange thing is even non-arabic speaking, and individuals with no knowledge in the language of Arabic make insisting thesis that Allah is the name of an arabic God. Thus, I would like the OP and the thread to create some kind of understanding that it is not.

Peace.

Well you would know a Baha'i will not argue that fact, I hope others can see it in that simple frame of reference also.

Regards Tony

 

[firedragon]

Well you would know a Baha'i will not argue that fact, I hope others can see it in that simple frame of reference also.

Regards Tony

Hmm. Yes you are right. I have not seen a Bahai make that argument. The thing is I don't know many Bahai's. I have only met one lady but never discussed anything. All of my Bahai friends are right here in this forum. Thus, what I am saying is my knowledge is limited. Yet, you said the Bahai perspective and I accept it as the Bahai perspective.

Salam.

 

[firedragon]

No, for many, Allah is the God in the Quran, because the Muslims, even in English use the word Allah always. That is what they mean. And it doesnt matter if they are technically correct or not. As long as it is clear what they mean, it is fine.

True. Thats why a little bit of awareness doesn't hurt.