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Is America a Police state?
- Thread starter Revoltingest
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Be careful crossing that border.
You wouldn't want to get arrested.
Or would you......?
I don't mind the Canadian side.
It's the Americans who cause me grief. (Brutish, aren't we?)
I'm done having guns pointed at me, so I don't drive across that border anymore.
I had a gun pulled on me when they asked me what was on my belt, could they see it...
So when I reached for my CAMERA, they also reached for their guns.
"Easy boys.... when I shoot this thing no one gets hurt unwarranted."
They didn't think I was being funny, but ***** dude..... I nearly got a gun put on me for that....
Again I say... when is Iraq going to come liberate us!?
It's their turn!
Funny how America was founded on getting rid of the oppression of the king, unsubstantiated detentions and no rights to a lawyer if deemed unworthy... etc etc etc...
Looks like kids just wanted to be their own kings w/ their own subject.
So when I reached for my CAMERA, they also reached for their guns.
"Easy boys.... when I shoot this thing no one gets hurt unwarranted."
They didn't think I was being funny, but ***** dude..... I nearly got a gun put on me for that....
Again I say... when is Iraq going to come liberate us!?
It's their turn!
Funny how America was founded on getting rid of the oppression of the king, unsubstantiated detentions and no rights to a lawyer if deemed unworthy... etc etc etc...
Looks like kids just wanted to be their own kings w/ their own subject.
True dat.....I had a gun pulled on me when they asked me what was on my belt, could they see it...
So when I reached for my CAMERA, they also reached for their guns.
"Easy boys.... when I shoot this thing no one gets hurt unwarranted."
They didn't think I was being funny, but ***** dude..... I nearly got a gun put on me for that....
Again I say... when is Iraq going to come liberate us!?
It's their turn!
Funny how America was founded on getting rid of the oppression of the king, unsubstantiated detentions and no rights to a lawyer if deemed unworthy... etc etc etc...
Looks like kids just wanted to be their own kings w/ their own subject.
Couple held at gunpoint, arrested after buying home *| ajc.com
The cop code seems to be:
- Point gun & threaten.
- Arrest & jail.
- Ask questions.
The cop code seems to be:
- Point gun & threaten.
- Arrest & jail.
- Ask questions.
Road Warrior
Seeking the middle path..
No, the USA isn't a police state but, yes, the police are wrong about harassing those who video tape them in public.
This will go to the Supreme Court if necessary. The implication being, that if citizens can't video in public, then how can the government put up security cameras and video innocent citizens without just cause?
I wouldn't put it past the USSC to construct some extra-constitutional rationale that gov may do what citizens may not.
The light of day frightens the bejeezus out of authorities who are used to doing what they do with impunity.
Road Warrior
Seeking the middle path..
I think many citizens, including myself, would be very upset in such a circumstance. Which is why I do not believe it will come to pass. Remember, despite all the urbanite attacks on the issue, it's "We, the People" who have most of the guns.
Nashitheki
Hollawitta
Is America a police state ?
I seem to remember first asking that very same question back in 1976. The pay phone down the street was tapped and there was often an unmarked Plymouth Fury parked across the street from our pad.
I seem to remember first asking that very same question back in 1976. The pay phone down the street was tapped and there was often an unmarked Plymouth Fury parked across the street from our pad.
I wasn't watching you.
I just had trouble keeping that pile of junk running, so it stayed put a lot.
Road Warrior
Seeking the middle path..
LOL.
Yes, the police do seem to monitor certain areas of illicit activities. It works for me. Public security cams? Does that make good sense or does that make us a police state?
Yes, the police do seem to monitor certain areas of illicit activities. It works for me. Public security cams? Does that make good sense or does that make us a police state?
painted wolf
Grey Muzzle
Depends on where those cameras are doesn't it.
Do all citizen need to be monitored by the state whenever they are outside their homes?
wa:do
Road Warrior
Seeking the middle path..
Of course. Which is why I said "public security cams". Obviously we still have our Constitutional rights in the USA especially, as in this case, our Fourth Amendment rights.
Monitor all citizens? My perspective is that public areas are monitored. Nobody cares if you and I meet, have a drink and a few laughs. OTOH, if, while we were doing this, we were mugged by some guy who takes off on a motorcycle, wouldn't it be nice if there was a videotape of both the crime and the getaway vehicle?
painted wolf
Grey Muzzle
And what if someone does care if you and I meet? It's not like there is no precedent for innocent people to be unfairly tracked by the state here in the USA.
wa:do
Road Warrior
Seeking the middle path..
Why would they care? It's a public area. If you and I were concerned about being seen on a public security cam we could go to a private area where our Constitutional rights protect us.
As for "innocent people to be unfairly tracked", in this nation we're innocent until proven guilty so, yes, "innocent" people are being tracked because they haven't been convicted of anything. However, due to budget cuts and standard financial reasons, police don't have the time or money to track just anyone they feel like. They'd focus on those whom they think are actually involved in illicit activities.
To be observed in some public areas ain't so bad. The danger is that eventually we might be observed in any public area,
including private areas which can be seen from a public area. The USSC appears to be heading in the direction of allowing this.
Their "expectation of privacy" is more liberal than mine.....or rather less (classically) liberal.
Hmmmm....it sems the best way to preserve liberty is to limit government's funding.
Starve the beast!
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
The US is definitely a Dystopian Culture now.
Family farming as I know it is to become a crime?
Obama knows better than parents how to raise kids I suppose.
Child Labor Laws | Farming | Department of Labor | The Daily Caller
Obama knows better than parents how to raise kids I suppose.
Child Labor Laws | Farming | Department of Labor | The Daily Caller