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Is Atheism based on superstition?

ArtieE

Well-Known Member
That does not make the basis of Atheism reasonable, knowledgeable and truthful on its own. Truth must shine on its own. Please
Regards
The "basis" of not believing in gods is that theists haven't been able to provide evidence for the existence of gods.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
The "basis" of not believing in gods is that theists haven't been able to provide evidence for the existence of gods.
That is not a reasonable positive basis. It is a negative argument. Why others should provide one the evidence? Please
Evident needs no evidence, necessarily.
Regards
 

Yerda

Veteran Member
One sense of superstition is "unreasonable notion", just to critique religions while not to critique Atheism on the same basis is unreasonable and inequitable.It makes Atheism an irrational belief/unbelief.
Is it not superstition or the like?
Regards
We can't critique atheism and religion on the same basis because they are generally not comparable objects.

Religions are like large collections of ideas and relationships between ideas with particular features that pop up often - meaning, purpose, gods etc.

Atheism is a position on a single question.

Do you understand the distinction I'm trying to make?
 

Kirran

Premium Member
@paarsurrey - if nobody ever proves to somebody that God or any god exists, they are an atheist. Nobody has "proved atheism" to them, they just have never become theists. Do you get it?
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
We can't critique atheism and religion on the same basis because they are generally not comparable objects.

Religions are like large collections of ideas and relationships between ideas with particular features that pop up often - meaning, purpose, gods etc.

Atheism is a position on a single question.

Do you understand the distinction I'm trying to make?
"Atheism is a position on a single question."
And they never justify positively their position or non-position, as it is mere guesswork or superstition. Please
Regards
 

McBell

Unbound
"Atheism is a position on a single question."
And they never justify positively their position or non-position, as it is mere guesswork or superstition. Please
Regards
I do not need to "justify" YOUR inability to convince me YOUR claim is correct.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
"Atheism is a position on a single question."
And they never justify positively their position or non-position, as it is mere guesswork or superstition. Please
Regards
Have you not noticed my oft repeated justification?
It's simple.
I don't believe in things which cannot be verified.
This isn't guesswork or supposition.
It's a practical method which comports quite well with the real world.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Have you not noticed my oft repeated justification?
It's simple.
I don't believe in things which cannot be verified.
This isn't guesswork or supposition.
It's a practical method which comports quite well with the real world.
"I don't believe in things which cannot be verified."

So, one agrees that Atheism's "no-god" position is superstitious as it is unverifiable. Perhaps it is for this that instead of "Atheism" one has mentioned "Religion:Maple syrup".
Kindly correct me if I am wrong. Please
Regards
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
"I don't believe in things which cannot be verified."

So, one agrees that Atheism's "no-god" position is superstitious as it is unverifiable. Perhaps it is for this that instead of "Atheism" one has mentioned "Religion:Maple syrup".
Kindly correct me if I am wrong. Please
Regards
Let's begin with a definition of the word.
(Apologies to my socialist friends, who oppose allowing dictionaries to define words.)
the definition of superstition
The primary definition....
a belief or notion, which are not based on reason or knowledge, in or of the ominous significance of a particular thing, circumstance, occurrence, proceeding, or the like.
If I eschew belief in things not based on reason or knowledge,
then I'd be practicing the opposite of superstition.
Maple syrup, unlike God, is eminently verifiable.

Let's now look at the secondary definition of "superstition"....
a system or collection of such beliefs.
Atheism is hardly a "system" or "collection" of anything, further distancing it from the word.
But religions are typically vast & intricate inter-related beliefs which ostensibly describe all of
reality & beyond. Can't get more systematic than that. Hence, they qualify as "superstition".
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
RF gets so upside down at times.....
Atheism is superstition.
Science is faith.
Religion is objective.
I do. So, I would be interested in how you respond to the question. Many monotheists (not all) start sounding like atheists whenever they talk about the gods of others.
Monotheists have much in common with us non-believers.
We all disbelieve in approximately the same number of gods.

This thread has 100+ posts more than it deserves
I'll make that 101+ more
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
paarsurrey said:
Does one believe in Zeus? Please
Regards
I do. So, I would be interested in how you respond to the question. Many monotheists (not all) start sounding like atheists whenever they talk about the gods of others.
One believes in Zeus, as one told here. So, one is out of the superstition of the Atheism, for sure.
What attributes does Zeus have/had? Please
Regards
 
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