Is Beastiality (Zoophilia) morally wrong or right?

[Green Gaia]

To say that a same sex couple can be married and raise a child. Your saying you can raise a child with no dad. It's okay, the man of the house is not needed. Females also are not need because it's okay for two men to raise a child. This is off subject but I wanted to answer your question.

First of all, this is a thread about beastiality....

Secondly, the fight for equal marriage rights for gay and lesbian couples has nothing to do with who is and who is not needed to raise children. I would think that the millions of well-adjusted, normal children who are raised by single parents would prove that. Most gay and lesbian couples that I know don't want children and those that do already have them from previous relationships and the children still have contact with both biological parents. Yes, some want to adopt or have children, but so what? Isn't what is important that the child has loving attentive people who care about them regardless of the sexual organs between their legs?

 

[Divine Androgyne]

First of all, this is a thread about beastiality....

Secondly, the fight for equal marriage rights for gay and lesbian couples has nothing to do with who is and who is not needed to raise children. I would think that the millions of well-adjusted, normal children who are raised by single parents would prove that. Most gay and lesbian couples that I know don't want children and those that do already have them from previous relationships and the children still have contact with both biological parents. Yes, some want to adopt or have children, but so what? Isn't what is important that the child has loving attentive people who care about them regardless of the sexual organs between their legs?

Maize,
I think I got a handle on where Abram is going with all of this. I bet his wife left him and broke his heart. Maybe she left him for another woman. For God sake, the guy is ******* his dog because it is the only thing that has not forsaken him! Now he feels that he is no longer needed as a father because two lesbians have them.

Tell me I'm wrong Abram. Because if it's true, my heart is truly breaking for you.

 

[Flappycat]

I still don't see the harm in the thing. It's just sex, guys, sheesh. There are more important things to get your pantyhose in a run over.

 

[Bangbang]

I still don't see the harm in the thing. It's just sex, guys, sheesh. There are more important things to get your pantyhose in a run over.

PANTYHOSE!!!!!!!!! RUNS! Oh Yeh! :woohoo:

 

[Ody]

Never you can never know if the animal party really consents to the acts

 

[Flappycat]

Never you can never know if the animal party really consents to the acts

Yeah, you can. Is your face a bloody mess or not?

Besides, pressing sex onto animals is quite acceptable if you're breeding them. Oh, they don't think of that one. Compare that to some pothead making good use of his animal's liking for peanut butter or some strange, little man who wants to marry his pony. If a woman's dog has to be trained not to try to mount her at inappropriate times, I'd like to know how much more in the way of consent you're looking for.

Most owners don't give a spit about their animals' civil liberties or state of mind, but I don't know if I've met any zoos who don't dote on their animals to the point of being downright silly (Oddly, not one that didn't have a husky, rottweiller, or some variety of horse). Between most zoos I've known and the average pet owner, I have to say I have more respect for the loopier ones if you want to know the truth.

If you find someone who actually does rape animals, sheesh, just hit him with something hard until his brain starts to think again or report him to the police. The average zoo, though, is just a harmless nut as far as I can tell. Leave it.

(You know, it just occured to me...I meet the straaaangest people.)

 

[Abram]

Maize,
I think I got a handle on where Abram is going with all of this. I bet his wife left him and broke his heart. Maybe she left him for another woman. For God sake, the guy is ******* his dog because it is the only thing that has not forsaken him! Now he feels that he is no longer needed as a father because two lesbians have them.

Tell me I'm wrong Abram. Because if it's true, my heart is truly breaking for you.

Wow! What if it's not true? No wife, no dog, and lesbians are good for one thing, porn!

 

[Flappycat]

I think she was just thumbing his nose at you, Abram.

 

[Abram]

I think she was just thumbing his nose at you, Abram.

:biglaugh: frubal 4U

 

[angellous_evangellous]

OK I made it to the third page.

I may take "warm" and "fuzzy" out of my signature.

I need a beer.

 

[Cynic]

Druidus, I think you need to find yourself another polar bear. You're just too big for human females.

 

[wicca_woman]

Bestiality is not in a category with homosexuality....it is closer to child porn...hopefully neither will be accepted, as they involve using innocent beings for selfish pleasure.

I AGREE WITH YOU ON THIS ONE WHOLEHEARTEDLY !!!

 

[Gentoo]

I have trouble saying that bestiality is wrong, simply because I don't like saying anything is automatically wrong. I don't agree with it, and wouldn't participate no matter how much money was involved. But I can't say that it's right or that it's wrong.

Besides, it's mostly a personal thing.

 

[Katzpur]

Is there something inherently wrong with having sex with a non-human species? Does it depend on whether or not the human rapes the non-human? If it is wrong, what should the punishment be? My opinion is that it is ok, but only when the non-human and human consent, and they are in a loving, caring relationship. I believe love is common to all creatures, and can be spread between all species.

It's wrong. Animals deserve better.

 

[Hema]

**spitting out a mouthful of water that I was drinking** Just joking!

Yuck yuck yuck. Do animals even have sex with other species? Animals mate during a mating season and humans and dolphins are the only two species that have sex for fun (I know Uncle Michel said that on another thread the other day, but I'm not stealing his point, I actually knew that before). With this in mind, the act of sex basically serves the purpose of producing offspring. What kind of offspring will result from human-animal intercourse? Some poor creature that might suffer it's whole life. It would be unnatural. Okay, now that I've said all that....can someone please tell me why our male rottweiler used to get an erection when we petted him (not all the time though). My boyfriend even told me that his dad was petting their dog (a male) and the dog ejaculated. Hid dad made an excuse that the dog had peed. Is this because a female dog in the area was in heat and the male dogs are prone to such things around that time?

 

[Mathematician]

I'm with the majority. If animals could consent to it, then have fun, but until then I'd see it as rape. Another interesting idea, though:

When the AI presents itself, would it be wrong for a consenting android and a human to have sex?

 

[Ozzie]

Is there something inherently wrong with having sex with a non-human species? Does it depend on whether or not the human rapes the non-human? If it is wrong, what should the punishment be? My opinion is that it is ok, but only when the non-human and human consent, and they are in a loving, caring relationship. I believe love is common to all creatures, and can be spread between all species.

The easy way out is to think about sentience. Would it be Ok morally to sleep with a retarded person even if they appear consenting. The obvious answer is no! That is a criminal act. Sleeping with an animal is to foister oneself on beings still lower on the sentience scale and should be punished even more severely.

Oz

 

[Ozzie]

I'm with the majority. If animals could consent to it, then have fun, but until then I'd see it as rape. Another interesting idea, though:

When the AI presents itself, would it be wrong for a consenting android and a human to have sex?

As a human creation we would have to program their "consent". Your question is an oxymoron equivalent to arguing morality with a prostitute.

 

[Tiberius]

Animals are not capable of consenting to sex. Sex without mutual consent is wrong. Therefore, bestiality is wrong.

Animals are more than capable of indicating they want it. Trust me, a woman tries to get it on with a German Shepherd, and if the dog doesn't want to, there's no way to force it. And if the dog wants to, he'll happily go for it without needing to be encouraged. He may not be able to say it in words, but actions do speak louder than words...

 

[Rough_ER]

Yuck yuck yuck. Do animals even have sex with other species? Animals mate during a mating season and humans and dolphins are the only two species that have sex for fun.

Ever heard of Bonobos? Bonobos, as well as using sex as a social tool, are often observed sneaking off with each other for a quicky behind the bushes. They have oral sex, group sex, mutual masturbation, guy on guy action.... these guys know their stuff! Frans de Waal actually mentions a time when he was observing bonobos and a female presented to him!

I'm not saying this for any reason really, it's just interesting. As for my opinion on bestiality, I'm really not sure. Would Frans have been violating the female bonobo if he had had sex with her? Who knows.